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    Walter & Group,

    [GH]  Let's back track for a bit to Task 5.

    This from Paul Arden :

    " I emphasize there to be no accentuating movements - no pull backs."

    Hi Dusty,

    why? Surely the purpose is to cast a hook, possibly around an obstruction. Pull back increases tension and sends the line more forcefully and IMO gracefully around a corner. Why is this unacceptable?

    If we want to know if the candidate can know the difference between a Cast and a Mend then why not ask as a separate question at some point?

    When you teach the curve cast do you teach pull-back? Surely using pull-back shows a higher skilled level of caster?


    Hi Gordy, 

    since we all in agreement that the use of pull-back is an excellent addition to the curve cast layout configuration - and we all use it - I don't think that it would be acceptable to fail an otherwise excellent MCI candidate for using it too! This is a highly contentious issue in Europe by the way. Of all the tasks this is the one that comes up the most.

    I think loop plane and trajectory are the key components to this cast incidentally.

    I know we've discussed this before!!! 

    Cheers from Australia :-)
    Paul

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    [GH]  Dusty Sprague answers Paul Arden :

    Hey Paul,

    All you have said regarding the good things a pull-back does I agree with and I teach the pull-back when I teach an overpowered curve mend because this accentuating movement adds tension and kick to the line layout which is often desirable.  However, on this task in this test we are asking for a curve cast not a cast mend and we've defined the difference between a cast and mend.  So, very simply on this task for the curve 'cast' we simply would like the candidate to execute without a mending motion added.
    Cheers,
    Dusty

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    [GH]  My own thoughts on why the MCI Testing Committee negated the use of "pull-back" is to isolate the skill of forming a curve cast.

    Since I almost always use some degree of pull-back (mend) except when I need only a small curve layout, I actually found it more difficult to do it without the mend because (as with hauling) I had to concentrate on avoiding it when demonstrating the task as I coached candidates.  (Seems the pull-back mend move was ground into my chromosomes.)

    I'd favor someday altering Task 5 to require the "overpowered" curve cast to be made both ways... with and without pull-back.



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    [GH]  Dusty Sprague answers Paul Arden :

    Hey Paul,

    All you have said regarding the good things a pull-back does I agree with and I teach the pull-back when I teach an overpowered curve mend because this accentuating movement adds tension and kick to the line layout which is often desirable.  However, on this task in this test we are asking for a curve cast not a cast mend and we've defined the difference between a cast and mend.  So, very simply on this task for the curve 'cast' we simply would like the candidate to execute without a mending motion added.
    Cheers,
    Dusty




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