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    Allen Crise FFF Master Casting Instructor
    FFF-SOC VP of Education
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    GCC Casting Chairman

    Hawk Ridge Flycasting School
    2508 A County Road 1011
    Glen Rose, TX 76043
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    From: Gordon Hill [mailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx]
    Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:22 AM
    To: Allen Crise
    Subject: Re: some are thinking on this.

    ol Al...
     
    Interesting responses.  Best way to prove what happens, however, is to rig up and try to duplicate those casts.
     
    Gordy
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    Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:45 PM
    Subject: some are thinking on this.

    Responces on changing rod actions.

     

     

    From William

    If you follow exactly the same stroke length and timing, you could end up chasing the snake.  If you had a longer pause and the same stroke length and application of power, you line would probably pile and the loop would be possibly larger and could tail do to the stroke being to short and fast for the distance being cast. 

     

    WK

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     From Walter

    Tailing loop.

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    from Al

    I do not agree with the tailing loop or tailing loop from too much power It is where you add the power.
    I can cast one handed to 55 ft. I thought you chose that to make it past the one hand casting distance of most casters.
     
      So I am off to try it for sure. I will use the but section then a soft tip section just to make sure. YOU know I have to prove it to myself..
     
    ol Al
    Howdy Group,
    Back after my testing.
     Changing rods or rod length did not work.
     What did work was changing LINES
     I took a 5 wt rod and loaded it with WF9F line it would be the soft rod.
     The tried a WF3F wt line this would be the stiff rod.
     I cast Tailing loops on both extremes
      Gordy YOU were right again.
    With the 9 wt I was overloading using the same stroke I would for the 5 wt line
    With the 3 wt line I did not have any load and to my surprise I again cast tailing loops.
     The rod was under loaded or not loaded acting like a straight stiff rod. My casting stroke and power had to be changes to make it cast at all. But I could not reach the 50 ft mark, with it under loaded
     Thanks that is not what I was thinking would happen at all.
    ol Al
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    from Gordy
    ol Al..
     
    As you know, the answer to this one is:  A TAILING LOOP.
     
    That's the short answer.
     
    Long answer:  Using no corrections to hand path or application of power, the tip path of the very soft (limber) rod will assume a CONCAVE path.
     
    Gordy
     
     
     
     
    ol Al

    Allen Crise FFF Master Casting Instructor
    FFF-SOC VP of Education
    FWFF Education Chairman
    GCC Casting Chairman

    Hawk Ridge Flycasting School
    2508 A County Road 1011
    Glen Rose, TX 76043
    Ranch 254-897-2045
     Cell 254-396-1574
    geocities.com/rrdoctor
    flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx