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    Walter & Group.........

    More from Jim Phillips on the Bow & Arrow cast:

    Gordy,

    A further thought on the B & A cast. In tight situations, I have overlined by 3 weights on my 4 wt to a 7 wt BBT (with a short leader) since my lighter rods are 6'0 to 8'6"--I can't find my old video but I think it was George Harvey or Joe Humphrey who showed the same type of overlining on one of their videos. Usually the trout in these situations are not as spooky as in a spring creek--just hungry!  I am either crouched in the stream and moving upstream or  shooting thru the brush into a pool.

    Jim P
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    From Ken Cole (His answers to the questions in text) :-

    Good morning, Gordy



    NEW QUESTIONS :

     

    1.) How do you teach the, "BOW AND ARROW CAST" ? With the leader/line knot outside the tip-top, grasp the fly by the hook bend. Pull back, loading the rod tip, sight down the leader to just above the target, then let'er fly.

    How much fly line outside the tip will depend on length of leader and length of cast to be made. Be careful to keep equipment and body parts out of the way. I have found that the rod stabilizes faster while being held in the loaded position with the guides pointed up, but I think that may fall under "style".

     

    2.) When would you use it ? I use this cast for shooting flies under low hanging branches, under docks, into culverts; any time a short range, tight quarters cast is needed.

     

    3.) Now, describe how you would teach the, "DISTANCE (EXTENDED) BOW AND ARROW CAST". Same as above, but pull back on the leader/line knot, making sure the leader and fly stay in front of you (this will keep hooks out of your stuff). Aim slightly higher (higher forward trajectory). With practice, I've found that I can shoot a bit of line with a well-timed release.

     

    Ken Cole

    Texas Fly Fishing Outfitters
    FFF/Certified Casting Instructor
    214 969-1030
    ken.cole@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
     
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    A beautiful teaching story by Jerry Puckett: -
     
    Gordy:
     
    Just want to share some comments about teaching.  This past Saturday May, 19th City Weekly Newspaper in SLC sponsored a Dutch Oven Cook Off contest with about forty small businesses with booths at the Gallentin Center downtown Salt Lake, a spacious out door entertainment area.  I represented Western Rivers Fly Shop and taught fly tying and Casting.  I invited Nicky Foy to help, a friend that I assisted in teaching five years ago in a fly fishing class,  Nicky has grown into a fisher person of delight.   Five years ago she hooked into a large brown and lost it her first day on the river, inexperience, and I was with her when she caught her first rainbow unassisted some time later, experienced! 
     
    I invited Nicky to help me simply realizing that if she taught what she knew of her beautiful
    relaxed casting and shared her experiences she would be an asset.  She starting teaching and was a natural right away, so much so it caught me by surprised.  We taught casting almost non-stop from 12 noon to 6 P.M. in 90 degree dry heat.
     
    The response and demand were overwhelming with a steady line of folk all ages and experience levels but mostly beginners.   Nicky is a natural born teacher and the attraction of ladies and men to her was immense, she had people ready with a basic fishing cast in 15 minutes or less.  The best non verbal statement she made was this is not a mans sport!  So folk take along a qualified lady to help when you do public group teaching, not everyone has to be Certified to pass along passion!   Every person a mirror, everyone a teacher! 
     
    Grip--That which seemed to work for the moment was simply placing the rod in a persons hand and asking them to hold it naturally and comfortably.   Then I would make suggestions toward thumb on top, finger on top and Jason Borgers distal grip, whichever was closest to their natural grip, followed with this statement, "grip is personal and for you to determine for your self, the grip should be comfortable, allow good casting control, and help you place the fly close to the fish."  Tracking seem to be okay for a beginner.  Every person cast to a target of 30 feet and my comment, when one cast within 30 inch circle, would be"That will Fish" emphasizing fun and possibilities to be had on the rivers.  I think the good folk started realizing that this is something I can do.  That was the goal for each person, get them ready for fishing with a basic cast.  While this approach lacked detail attention and discussion of casting mechanics all the summer folk, including Nicky and myself, had a great day of fun and, I hope, had people ready to start basic beginning fly fishing should they desire.  Do you have any suggestions on how to handle a big diverse demanding crowd of this nature?
     
    The Beer was free and I did not drink.  Jesus what is wrong with me!  Actually I was more concerned about professional image of representing the FFF in public and on TV.  Does the FFF have a position on drinking while teaching other than the guide of common sense?   I actually think that Nicky, a very stylish good looking women with a fly rod in one hand and beer on the table, with a little sip here and there, made people feel very comfortable in their first casting experience.  The music was great and I can't belief I was casting and rocking with doing a little tempo casting dance in time with the music!  (If you can imagine a whale dancing on it's tail then you will then you will have some idea of the visual!  I agree, less dancing and more Beer!)
     
    With more folk than time allowed for detailed personal attention we still fun and taught  casting to a large number of interested folk.
     
    I think for me, with my teaching style still evolving, is to teach with fishing application in mind and having fun.  The reason for this direction is one gentleman remarked, I am glad you said "that would fish" otherwise I would have no idea that I might be able to do this.
     
    Snow is losing its fingered grip on the mountians, just a litttle grey on top, and it is river time.  Great summer, wonderful folk and good times to be had.  Trout fever on the rise!
     
    Jerry Puckett