Walter & Group..........
For those of you who are interested:
Dennis Grant, Jim Valle and I will be holding a workshop at the Conclave this July/Aug. on, "Difficult Casts to Difficult Places".
We'll be covering many techniques including various curve casts, hook casts, mends, slack line casts, dry fly presentations, Snap casts, change of direction casts, continuous tension elliptical casts, salt water, "quick" casts and others. This one is for advanced casters.
Jim and I will also be hosting a workshop on, "Casting in High Winds."
These workshops should be especially helpful for any of you who are studying for Master Cert.
Jim Valle will also be holding an ongoing, "Casting Emergency Room" designed to help any of you with a particular casting problem. He'll be assisted by other Masters. I'll try to help with that as time permits.
Gordy
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From Walter Simberski:-
Subject: Definition of
casting plane?
Gordy - what is the accepted definition of casting plane? I've seen it used as either rod plane or line plane. Clearly it can't be both of those.
Thanks in advance
Walter
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Walter....
I have not been using the term, CASTING PLANE except to understand that many others use it to mean the same as, "LINE PLANE", "TRAJECTORY" and, "LAUNCH ANGLE".
"ROD PLANE", I see as orientation of the fly rod from vertical to horizontal on either side of the caster.
Jason Borger has used the term, "CASTING PLANE" to mean the path taken by the hand. (See p. 37, THE NATURE OF FLY CASTING, ".....the pathway that the hand follows back and forth during the cast.") He distinguishes this from "ROD PLANE" and from, "LINE PLANE" ("....the pathway the line follows during the cast.").
Mac Brown (CASTING ANGLES p.p 62,63 ) takes a different position as he describes it: " Casting planes include all the various angles of rod planes, body planes, line planes, worked through or around the clock face. The casting planes are difficult to perceive because they are two-dimensional being used to describe three-dimensions all around the casters body." His Figure 3.8 on p. 62 should be studied before coming to conclusion . To me it makes good sense. On p. 60, he depicts ROD PLANE and LINE PLANE as I did. He also adds the concept of, BODY PLANE. On p. 61 he says, "The line plane refers to the positioning of the fly line during the cast in relationship to the ground" ( One might take issue with that when considering what happens when casting with a strictly horizontal rod plane .... for, then, we might think of relating it to the rod (????) )
In her, FLY CASTING TECHNIQUES, I did not see that Joan Wulff used the term, "CASTING PLANE". She does describe, "vertical plane casting" and, "off-vertical casting" (pp. 113 -114) with depictions indicating what I've been calling different "ROD PLANES". She does use the word, "TRAJECTORY" as I have used it on p. 121 and describes it as an angle related to the horizontal.
In our Glossary Committee deliberations, we have not yet discussed this definition ..... however, most of us see the casting stroke as the path taken by the hand and are in the process of considering the best wording to describe its starting point.
Having no real consensus on terminology can be a problem when discussing casting ..... and certainly can be a source of concern to MCCI candidates. The candidate should have an understanding of the fact that different uses exist for these terms at this point in time. It will be helpful to them to be able to come up with a clear verbal description of what these terms mean if and as they use them as part of their answers on the oral part of the exam.
Gordy