Line management

Walter & Group........

Return message from Pete Humphreys:

"In the river when fishing a class I intermediate sink line, I have to make repeated roll casts to get the line up and out for the shoot"      Gordy

 

Hi Gordy,

 

Found this interesting as we deal with this problem lots with spey casting teachings and I'm sure this technique will apply for single hand also.  It is possible and remarkably effortless (when performed correctly), to "roll off"  the fastest sinking, full length spey lines in one roll cast if you practice a VERY SLOW lifting movement before making your "roll off" cast. 

 

The lift should be made with a slight outward push away from the body with the rod hand and performed extremely slowly, keeping the line steadily moving.  Start with the rod tip touching the water and keep it moving as slowly as you can whilst still maintaining a constant tension with the line.  Keep lifting and draw the rod tip back into your "firing position" for the forward cast.  Like a magic trick the whole line will come on to the top of the water and you can make 1 effortless roll cast back down stream, then begin your new cast immediately, not allowing the line time to sink again.  It is easier with faster current, but still works very well in slow water.

 

P.  

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Pete .....

I'll try that.  I'm sure it is a lot easier with the Spey rods, because one can lift so much more line.   Thanks.

 

Gordy

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From David Lambert :

Gordy -- Read with interest your methods of line control.

Thought some of the group might find this useful.  We're using pop-up nylon trash bag holders as line tamer/managers on boats now. They collapse when you're running--a real benefit.  About 18 inches in diameter x 2 inches tall, collapsed.  Very easy to store.  Buy them at hardware stores.  Some of the guys velcro 'em to the deck.  I weight mine with lead.  One guide I know fills a section of 5/8 garden hose and coils it inside on bottom for weight.

Also, on boats, a wet towel is really handy for covering line-grabbers and bow trollers--stays put in a wind, too.

David

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David,     That is a good trick.  We did try that, a while back, and found it worked just fine.  Only problem was that before too long, the metal spring inside rusted in the salt spray, etc.  (Couldn't copy the picture.)

We've used a wet blanket, not only to cover bow protrusions, etc., but also to hang over the bow in the water to minimize wave slap against an aluminum jon boat which we poled up into super shallow water for redfish and snook.  (That slap made it difficult to sneak up on those fish !)

Gordy

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From Al Crise:

Howdy Gang and Gordy

 At SEC conclave a few years back Bob Clouser and I were casting in the building. When the problem came up of coils in the line where you most often hold it. He said that is because you place a twist in it each time you false cast.  To get rid of them just cast all the line so that it hits the reel while in the air. Sure enough it does.

 

ol Al

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Al .... Yes.  That is what Lefty taught us, too.  If you make multiple casts and never shoot out all the line out of the rod, the coils build up.

 

Reminds me of one of Tom White's expressions when distance casting all the line right to the reel.....  he called it, "Burping the reel".

 

Gordy

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