Different points of view on the HAUL / attachment

Walter & Group........

Al Crise sent me the graphic on the relationship of the haul to rod motion and speed in the attachment.  Here is his discussion on his own take on teaching hauls:-

Howdy Gang and Gordy

 

 This 'Hauling 'is something that Bruce and Noel are working on also see the attachment.

 

I do have a little different take on 'when' and 'what' the haul effects.

 

 Purpose of the haul is to: increase line speed./ To reduce the power needed from the rod hand only, sharing the work with the line hand. / Increase line speed by reducing the loop size,/ Control,. / Remove slack from a poor cast or loss of control.

First let me give you MY Rules of the Haul or Double haul.

 1] You can not make a good haul until you have the line tight from the line hand to the fly.

 2] The haul does not start until the rod is loaded,

 3] The haul should match the Rod TIP during "recovery" 

 4]  The rod gives the line direction the haul gives the added line speed.

 5]  Tailing loops are most often cause by hauling too soon.

 6]  The Haul should be down the rod axis.

 7]  The Give back must follow but not forced up the rod

 8]  The line hand must move away from the rod not the rod away from the line hand.

 

Now the why I teach this way.

1) Hauling is often use to pull slack Learn to make a better cast. Getting the rod leg straight from the previous cast or pick up.

 

2) The haul is most effective if done while the rod tip is in recovery, This is later in the stroke.

 

3) The rod's tip is what we need to match. As the amount of load is changed the haul is changed. As the rod's action is different the haul length is adjusted to match the rod's Tip Travel. To gain the most from the haul it is done while the tip is in recovery until RSP. Long tip travel = long haul. Fast tip recovery = short haul.

 

4) Forcing the rod to travel past RSP will only open the loop. Stopping the rod and the haul at RSP gives a tight loop. Most beginners will move the rod in a greater arc to get the line out. or will over load the rod at the end of the cast causing the tip to duck or travel in a concaved path. (tailing loop)

 

5) The cause of tailing loops are the concaved rod tip path. This can be by trying to add load to the rod too soon and not being able to maintain this load the concaved path is seen. This also just pulls line down the rod that has to be feed back or shot. Second cause is the failure to get the line tight or a short stroking before the haul.

 

6) Pulling down the axis of the rod reduces the drag on the rod guides, Gives the hand a free travel path. Follows the natural flow of the line down and back up.

 

7) There must be give back of the line after the haul or you have just pulled in the line for no reason. The give back is after the loop has formed and is traveling pulling the rod leg out of the rod's tip. I watch for slack between the line hand and stripper guide.

 

8) Pulling of the line must be done by the line hand moving away from the rod hand/rod. If not, you are just sliding the rod up the rod not increasing the speed of rod leg.

 

I do not feel that the haul should add any rod load. It does if done too soon. Waiting until the rod's tip is in recovery it might delay the recovery not bend it deeper. Now if you have the line tied off and try to haul all you do is bend the rod back to the stationary line mass. Where when we haul on a moving mass adding velocity we are increasing the Kinetic energy of the line.  Hence line speed. line speed, line speed.

  When we can make a cast with a broom stick or the one foot rod I use that has no rod advantage we are not getting a rod load we are just increasing the line speed.

 

When teaching the hauls I am often asked when to start the haul?

 To this I will start the caster in a side arm cast close to the ground. Hands close together. 25 ft of line out. Here they can see the hands rod and results of the line travel.

  I have them watch the tip of the rod as it is moving (backward for a start) When the rod is bent or loaded, stop and make a tug or haul on the line with the line hand. I tell them to "Pull the Rod Straight". Do not move the rod harder at this time. Just let the rod give the direction we want the loop to travel. My words are "Gooooo ThatWAY" This gives the rod the Goooo or movement needed to get the line tight and some bend in the rod. The "thatway" is a short pull on the line, while the rod's tip is in recovery. They can see that as soon as the timing is right the loop will sail out the full 25 ft. 

The forward cast is harder to learn due to the line hand has to move faster than the rod hand. or after the rod hand has stopped moving. This stop is often the harder to learn the timing of. Keeping the line tight and under control.

 The give back must be undercontrol. When the loop travels out it will pull the line hand up to the reel.

 Small steps in learning the haul are needed. Just the haul, Then the when, then the give back on just the back cast.

  After the student gets the timing working. looking like someone playing a violin, I will add the drift of the rod, so that the tip of the rod is pointing at the loop after the stop and the loop is formed. This is also for the shooting of line into both backward and forward casts. It adds the longer stroke needed for more line out of the rod tip.

 Looking at and reading Noel's attachment look at #2 I highlighted in brown. This is when the haul does the most to effect the line's speed.

 

That is hauling  or Double Hauling by  Ol Al

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Comment:  As you know, I do feel that an efficient haul should add some rod load, even though I look at its primary accomplishment as directly increasing line speed.

 

We do not all look at these things in exactly the same way.  I feel it is refreshing to study different points of view as we tackle casting mechanics.  ol Al keeps us thinking, for sure !

 

Gordy.

 

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From Michael Jones :

 

Gordy

"Axial hauling", perfect...thank you Ally!

I notice in my guiding that an interesting dimension of casting

problems peak up when one begins to cast in different planes (cross

body, etc.) and continues to single/double haul. It can be a real

gift to show a fishing client or advanced student how tracking the

line/hauling hand is really, really important in controlling line

speed & casting efficiency in different casting scenarios and casting

planes.

My understanding is that Bruce Richards has the quintessential 'axial

haul', and that is what makes his line speed application look sooooo

pretty and smooth, a.k.a. efficient. This is something that we should

all strive toward in understanding and execution, don't you think?.

Michael Jones

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Michael...     I do agree.  The more out of line with the rod guides we pull when hauling, the greater the energy needed to accomplish the task because of the increase in friction and decreased mechanical efficiency as the fly line bends at an angle away from that line at the first stripping guide.......  Ally Gowan's, "axial hauling" line.

Gordy

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