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- Subject: Trajectory/ "LAUNCH ANGLE"
- Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2006 08:36:00 -0400
Walter & Group:
From Walter Simberski....some rather
deep thoughts:-
Gordy - I was thinking along similar
lines as you but then I began to think that the idea of trajectory
for fly line is too complicated. By definition,
trajectory is the path of an object through space. This
is a difficult enough concept when thinking about a
bullet or a space capsule but a fly line has the added
complexity that it is long, thin and very flexible.
A point on the rod leg will have a different path than a
point on the fly leg and both will be different
from a point on the loop - even for a "basic" cast. Change
to a curved cast, corkscrew cast, serpentine cast,
one of the spey casts and it becomes difficult to
describe the path of the line and virtually
impossible to find a representative point on the line to
discuss in relation to the trajectory.
Perhaps a slightly different approach is in order.
What is the question that we are trying to answer
by
defining trajectory? Are we trying to identify the
variables that tell us how far a cast will travel? Are we
trying understand how the path of the hand affects
the path of the rod tip, and hence, the path of the
line in order to help us explaing casting faults or
specialty casts? The affect of "trajectory" on presentation?
My first thought when the trajectory discussion
started was that it was similar to the discussion of
trajectory for bullets which is mainly concerned
about the distance a bullet will travel or how much it
will drop over a given distance but may also
consider how it is affected by wind or the difference between
shooting at a stationary target vs a moving
one.
If the idea is to determine the length a cast will
travel then the variables we want to look at are lift,
drag, and launch angle. Lift and drag will be
determined by loop shape and orientation, wind velocity,
line shape (most lines are round but knots are a
common feature that may change) line density, and line
velocity. Launch angle for a "basic" cast, i.e. slp
of the rod tip has been maintained and a loop with
parallel rod and fly legs is formed, could be
determined by the fly leg or the front of the loop. Rod
leg could also be used but may be inaccurate if
rebound has resulted in a bit of deviation on the leg.
Thank
Walter
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Walter....
I like that term, "LAUNCH ANGLE" !
To simplify matters, I look at the imaginary center of the loop as the,
"bullet" when I think of trajectory. So many things can change the legs of
the loop that I have not seen fit to consider those.
Gordy
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From Paul Ardin:
Hi Gordy,
yep your definition is better - thanks, I'll
use this from now on.
Cheers, Paul