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    Sure, forwarding to the group! Lovely day in Montana, the sun is shining, the fish are rising (well they were); it's all go around here...
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:10 PM
    Subject: Re: STOP / SLP

    Paul....
     
    Wow!  I love that one.  Sort of proves the point.
     
    Sometimes that happens with the so-called, "cheat roll cast" where you make your forward stroke and take your line arm and bring it over so the butt section of your rod strikes it HARD at the, "stop".
     
    I'm using a wierd computer and can't get to my own address book let alone the Group mail address......Can you forward this string out to my Group for me ?
     
    Gordy
     
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: "Paul Arden" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    Hi Gordy,
    a friend of mine built a crude casting machine a few years ago (called
    Rodney). It resembled something you would attack castles with.
    A harder stop you couldn't create. The butt would hit a block, and instead
    of the rod unbending it would violently bounce in three places and the
    loop would tail every time. We fixed the problem by putting a bit of cushioning
    (my jumper actually) between the butt and the stop bock.
     
    I think Bruce has done something similar.
     
    Cheers,
    Paul
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 3:51 PM
    Subject: STOP / SLP

    Paul & Group...
     
    This from Paul Arden:-
     
     
    Hi Gordy,
     
    Actually I just came to the conclusion that the stop wasn't important on a long cast
    since the rod has already reached RSP because of the angle the the rod and line
    make on a 170/180 arc.
     
    I think it matters for tight loops but only for SLP not "efficient energy transfer"
    which is a bit of a red herring.
     
    Cheers, Paul
     
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    Paul...
     
    Yes.....I'm coming 'round to agreeing with you on that point.  Rapid deceleration of the hand and butt section of the rod is the closest mere mortal casters can manage while fly casting, anyway.....no real, "brick wall stop".
     
    However, the concept of teaching the student to come to a stop is still valid....because it works.
     
    On a long cast, if you didn't have an, "almost stop", however, and continued to move the rod after RSP, you could very well continue moving the tip more forward and down which would carry the tip in that direction much farther than it goes during counterflex.....and that could harm the cast by tearing the loop open or deforming it.
     
    Witness the CATAPULT.....no stop until long after the projectile has been launched.  No, "SLP" there, to be sure, but that isn't needed because there is no line or loop to sharpen...just the projectile.
     
    Lots of food for thought !
     
    Gordy