Al/Gordy - my answers in red.
Walter
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From: Allen Crise <flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx> Date: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:07 am Subject: FW: from Gordy>
>
> Forward from Walter
> Al/Gordy
>
> Also makes a great change of direction cast.
>
> Walter
>
> You are right in that you can use the Belgian Cast as a Change
of
> direction cast. With any Constant Tension cast building the "D"
> loop so that
> is is 180 from your target will make a change of
direction CAST.
>
> As this is one of the 'Prime Rules'. I am
going to ask some on Spey
> Casting. As you, that are working on your
Masters know the spey
> cast as some
> Prime Rules and special
words.
> Can you give some of the required items that should be in a good
> Spey Cast? >
The D Loop Is one of the things that has to be in a
Spey Cast.
D loop, continuous tension throughout the cast, proper lift/sweep/set, proper anchor,
D loop 180 degrees from target.
"D" loop: A rounded back loop of line that
forms behind the rod tip with the aid of the anchor and is the load for the
forward cast*
2)Can you
identify what the "Key position" term means?
Position at end of set prior to start of forward stroke.
Key
position: The point at which the forward stroke or the
forward straight-line cast begins *
3)
Shotgun lift?
Lift commonly used today to lift line off water.
Rod is pointed at the fly, vertically lift rod (no rotation!)
to point where butt is roughly shoulder level.
Shotgun lift; A Vertical lift move
that provides a smooth lineal
lift.*
4) Anchor point?
Point where end of line settles on water at end of sweep.
Anchor
Point; The Fly, the leader and the front tip of the line, by being secured in
the water surface, provides the tension or resistance needed to form the
"D" loop and provide the loading for the forward
cast.*
5) Circle cast?
Method of moving line from downstream to upstream by moving the rod tip in a semi circle.
Circle
cast; A Two-directional cast that positions the fly to the upstream side of
the caster and utilizes an oval to reposition the line; used for an upstream
wind*
6) Dangle?
Position in which fly is at the end or completion of
its swing.
7) Can you identify the bank you are casting
from?
Left or right bank is looking Down
Stream Your right or
left.*
8) Switch Cast?
A live line roll cast.
Switch
cast; A single directional cast which has a dynamic serialized "D" back loop and
an serialized forward loop*
>
> 9) Snap "T" ,
and "Z"
Circle cast is a variant of the snap T. Size and pointiness of the semi circle determines how forcibly the line is moved upstream
Snap Z is an aerialized snap T.
"T" or "Z" snap cast: A two-directional cast that
positions the fly to the upstream side of the caster. used for an upstream
wind.
>
> 10) Line Stick?
Water tension on line. Resistance of line to movement caused by water tension on the line.
Line
stick: The amount of line nested on the water surface during the forward
stroke*
Good luck on this Spey
Casting quiz.
ol Al
*The Blue answers are from Al Buhr book "A Handbook on Instruction
of Two-Handed Casting" Glossary of
Terms
ol
Al
> Once in
a while in the salt out on a windy flat, I'll use what I
> call a
> "reverse Belgian cast".
>
> This one works well casting
into a head wind. The back cast is
> made with
> an almost
vertical rod plane, then the forward cast with a more
> horizontalrod
plane. The trajectory (launch angle) for the back
> cast is high
>
(allowing the wind to assist) and that for the forward cast low to
> the
fish.
> This, also, prevents the spooky permit from seeing a fly line
high
> in the
> air as it approaches him.
>
>
Sometimes I use this when wind is not a factor. By combining
> this with
an
> upward curving power snap for my delivery cast, I can get the fly
> to travel
> out, then turn upward as the leader unfurls to make
a softer
> landing when
> using a sinking fly to a bonefish. Helps
to avoid spooking the fish.
>
> When fishing a large heavy
weighted crab fly for permit, I need
> to have
> the leader/line
layout as straight as possible because the permit
> may take
> the
fly and immediately spit it out. ANY slack and no hookup
> occurs. For
> this I like the standard, "Belgian" cast coupled with a smooth
>
check haul,
> ("triple haul"). The line/leader landing straight means
that I
> can come
> tight the second the fish takes the fly. Doug
Swisher once showed
> me an
> alternative to that check haul, as
he simply thrust his rod back
> away from
> the, "target" as the
leader unfurled. If you use a large loop
> because of
> the weight
of the fly, you can use both maneuvers at the same time.
>
> As
I'm sure you know, this elliptical cast can be effective with
> a strong
> wind from the casting arm side. The back cast can be made over
>
the casting
> arm shoulder, and the forward cast in a different rod plane
so
> that the rod
> tip and line go over the opposite shoulder.
With a VERY strong wind,
> placing the forward cast directly overhead is
OK as the wind will
> carry it
> over the line hand shoulder.
>
> Of course, these all belong in the category of elliptical
casts.
>
> Gordy
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> From: "Allen Crise" <flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To:
"Rick Whorwood" <whorwood@xxxxxxxxx>
> CC: "Gordy Hill"
<hillshead@xxxxxxx>,"Allen Crise"
> <flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: CCI
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:49:13 -0500
>
>
> Howdy Rick,
> You asked "how you would explain the
Belgian Cast and why we
> would use
> it"
> The Belgian
cast or Belgian wind cast is an elliptical cast.
> That is
> the
Rod plane changes from pick up to backcast to forward or
>
presentationcast. Without noticeable stopping of the rod.
> continuous
tension cast.
> (Mine) Use to keep the fly from striking the rod leg of
the line.
> Bettercontrol in the wind, due to lack of tension on the back
cast
> that lets the
> fly drop in it's travel.
>
>
>From Jason's "Nature of Fly Casting" pp 146 & 147
> "Basically a
backcast made in one rod plane ( usually sidearm)
> and a
>
forward cast made in another, different rod plane (usually
> overhead).
Done
> smoothly, this compound module is the ticket for casting split
> shot, making
> good use of a tailwind and solving other
presentation problems. "
>
> From Mel's "Essence of Flycasting "
pp.103-105
> He sums it up this way.
> "This pull-around,
swing-around, Constant-pressure, oval
> casting stroke
> is a
winner,.."
> Para phrased.. for casting Sinking lines and shooting tapers
> withadded control by the separation of the planes of the backcast
> and forward
> cast.
>
>
> I hope this
helps.
>
> ol Al
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