RE: FW: from Gordy

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From: WALTER/SUE SIMBIRSKI [mailto:simbirsw@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:44 PM
To: Allen Crise; masterstudy@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: FW: from Gordy

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> Forward from Walter
> Al/Gordy
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> Also makes a great change of direction cast.
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> Walter
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> You are right in that you can use the Belgian Cast as a Change of
> direction cast. With any Constant Tension cast building the "D"
> loop so that
> is is 180 from your target will make a change of direction CAST.
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> As this is one of the 'Prime Rules'. I am going to ask some on Spey
> Casting. As you, that are working on your Masters know the spey
> cast as some
> Prime Rules and special words.
> Can you give some of the required items that should be in a good
> Spey Cast? >
> 1)The D Loop Is one of the things that has to be in a Spey Cast.

D loop, continuous tension throughout the cast, proper lift/sweep/set, proper anchor,

D loop 180 degrees from target.

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> 2)Can you identify what the "Key position" term means?

Rod is pointed at the fly, vertically lift rod (no rotation!) to point where butt is roughly shoulder level.
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> 4) Anchor point?

Method of moving line from downstream to upstream by moving the rod tip in a semi circle.
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> 6) Dangle?

Position in which fly is at the end of its swing.
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> 7) Can you identify the bank you are casting from?
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> 8) Switch Cast?

Circle cast is a variant of the snap T. Size and pointiness of the semi circle determines how forcibly the line is moved upstream

Water tension on line. Resistance of line to movement caused by water tension on the line.
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> Good luck on this Spey Casting quiz.
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> ol Al
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> Once in a while in the salt out on a windy flat, I'll use what I
> call a
> "reverse Belgian cast".
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> This one works well casting into a head wind. The back cast is
> made with
> an almost vertical rod plane, then the forward cast with a more
> horizontalrod plane. The trajectory (launch angle) for the back
> cast is high
> (allowing the wind to assist) and that for the forward cast low to
> the fish.
> This, also, prevents the spooky permit from seeing a fly line high
> in the
> air as it approaches him.
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> Sometimes I use this when wind is not a factor. By combining
> this with an
> upward curving power snap for my delivery cast, I can get the fly
> to travel
> out, then turn upward as the leader unfurls to make a softer
> landing when
> using a sinking fly to a bonefish. Helps to avoid spooking the fish.
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> When fishing a large heavy weighted crab fly for permit, I need
> to have
> the leader/line layout as straight as possible because the permit
> may take
> the fly and immediately spit it out. ANY slack and no hookup
> occurs. For
> this I like the standard, "Belgian" cast coupled with a smooth
> check haul,
> ("triple haul"). The line/leader landing straight means that I
> can come
> tight the second the fish takes the fly. Doug Swisher once showed
> me an
> alternative to that check haul, as he simply thrust his rod back
> away from
> the, "target" as the leader unfurled. If you use a large loop
> because of
> the weight of the fly, you can use both maneuvers at the same time.
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> As I'm sure you know, this elliptical cast can be effective with
> a strong
> wind from the casting arm side. The back cast can be made over
> the casting
> arm shoulder, and the forward cast in a different rod plane so
> that the rod
> tip and line go over the opposite shoulder. With a VERY strong wind,
> placing the forward cast directly overhead is OK as the wind will
> carry it
> over the line hand shoulder.
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> Of course, these all belong in the category of elliptical casts.
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> Gordy
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> From: "Allen Crise" <flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Rick Whorwood" <whorwood@xxxxxxxxx>
> CC: "Gordy Hill" <hillshead@xxxxxxx>,"Allen Crise"
> <flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx> Subject: RE: CCI
> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 06:49:13 -0500
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> Howdy Rick,
> You asked "how you would explain the Belgian Cast and why we
> would use
> it"
> The Belgian cast or Belgian wind cast is an elliptical cast.
> That is
> the Rod plane changes from pick up to backcast to forward or
> presentationcast. Without noticeable stopping of the rod.
> continuous tension cast.
> (Mine) Use to keep the fly from striking the rod leg of the line.
> Bettercontrol in the wind, due to lack of tension on the back cast
> that lets the
> fly drop in it's travel.
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> From Jason's "Nature of Fly Casting" pp 146 & 147
> "Basically a backcast made in one rod plane ( usually sidearm)
> and a
> forward cast made in another, different rod plane (usually
> overhead). Done
> smoothly, this compound module is the ticket for casting split
> shot, making
> good use of a tailwind and solving other presentation problems. "
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> From Mel's "Essence of Flycasting " pp.103-105
> He sums it up this way.
> "This pull-around, swing-around, Constant-pressure, oval
> casting stroke
> is a winner,.."
> Para phrased.. for casting Sinking lines and shooting tapers
> withadded control by the separation of the planes of the backcast
> and forward
> cast.
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> I hope this helps.
>
> ol Al
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