Jeff;
The main reason I use the lines down here for night fishing is; I can
see where the line is on the water. When salt water fishing, you need
the rod pointed directly at the fly line with no angle.
During the cast I don't need to see the line/loop.
Tom White
Capt. Tom White
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Marathon, Fl. 33050
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-----Original Message-----
From: JEFFERY BAREFOOT [mailto:barefootj@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:49 PM
To: Gordon Hill; Jeff Wagner
Cc: Kirk Eberhard; Chuck Easterling; Lawrence Baggett; Randy Olson;
Steve Jacob; Rick Whorwood; Dennis Grant; John Wilson; Dan Wright; Bob
Andreae; DustySprague; Peter Minnick; Marty Tannahil; Jim Brady;
TomWhite; Ken Cole; BruceChard; Roman Glemba; BobTabbert; Allen Crise;
Dave Rothrock; Gary Wood; Jake Jordan; Mark Kreider; Tom Harper; Nial
Logan; Doug Hart; Sheila Hassan; FloydFranke; Jerry Iverson; Gary Meyer;
Charlie Shedd; ClayRoberts; Bob Rumph; BillHowland; Walter Simbirski;
Kathleen Wagner; Dermon Sox; Kim Boal; Ray Rhash; Peter Lami; gavin
platz; Ron Kerr; Jerry Puckett; Bryan Nims; Dana Stern; JerrySimons;
Cezanne Alexander; Don Jackson; MichaelGallert; Douglas Swift; Cathy Lee
Hill; Jim Valle; RonPedegana; Bob Beanblossom; Tom Bell; Frank Ogden;
JimPhillips; Jim Penrod; gregrahe; Molly Semenik; Ian Muirhead; Shane
Morrison; Ernie Maynard; Paul Arden
Subject: Re: Mini quiz
Thanks Guys,
I'll give them a try. I've always suspected their advantages, but
have wondered about any disadvantages. Attacks by toothy critters and
such.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Wagner <mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Gordon Hill <mailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx>
Cc: JEFFERY BAREFOOT <mailto:barefootj@xxxxxxx> ; Kirk Eberhard
<mailto:captkirk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Chuck
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Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Mini quiz
Group,
I have used the Teeny night line and the rio lumalux lines. I have used
them
for trout and for warm water species at night and find them very useful.
The
lumalux also has a ridged surface that gives less resistance in the
guides and
shoots very nicely.
I also use them to practice my casting. It is amazing how well you can
see a
glow in the dark line compared to even a bright line during the day.
It really
helps to work on tracking and loop shape.
Jeff Wagner
Master Certified Fly Casting Instructor, Federation of Fly Fishers
Fly Fishing Buyer, Jax Outdoor Gear
Fly Fishing Guide, Jax Outdoor Gear
Redington Pro Staff
Quoting Gordon Hill <hillshead@xxxxxxx>:
Jeff....
Not only stripers, but tarpon as well. I'm not an enthusiastic night
fisherman, though I do a lot of pre-dawn trips leaving the dock at
O-dark hundred. By the time I'm into a good battle, dawn is usually
breaking. I really love that time of day. At the start, I try to
make casts to the sound of the fish feeding or slurping. With
stripers it's blind casting unless they are crashing baitfish.
I'm award of those Aqualux glow lines, but never used one. There
might be some advantage to being able to see it in the air. I'd have
to think about that.....better, yet, to ask someone who has found
real advantage to their use.
Gordy
----- Original Message -----
From: JEFFERY BAREFOOT<mailto:barefootj@xxxxxxx>
To: Gordon Hill<mailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Mini quiz
Gordy,
Some of the best action for the Stripers can be at night.
Rio has Aqualux glow lines for the night shift. Have you tried these
lines?
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Hill<mailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx>
To: JEFFERY BAREFOOT<mailto:barefootj@xxxxxxx> ; Kirk
Eberhard<mailto:captkirk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Chuck
Easterling<mailto:creangler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Lawrence
Baggett<mailto:glbaggett@xxxxxxxxx> ; Randy
Olson<mailto:bigfly@xxxxxxxxx> ; Steve
Jacob<mailto:scjacobs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Rick
Whorwood<mailto:whorwood@xxxxxxxxx> ; Dennis
Grant<mailto:dennisg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; John
Wilson<mailto:flyfishar@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Dan
Wright<mailto:dwright@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Bob
Andreae<mailto:sobbobfish@xxxxxxx> ; Dusty
Sprague<mailto:dsprague01@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Peter
Minnick<mailto:pminnick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Marty
Tannahil<mailto:martyt@xxxxxxxxxx> ; Jim
Brady<mailto:bradyir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Tom
White<mailto:tomwhite@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Ken
Cole<mailto:ken.cole@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Bruce
Chard<mailto:CAPTPERMIT@xxxxxxx> ; Roman
Glemba<mailto:flycasts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Bob
Tabbert<mailto:rtab@xxxxxxx> ; Allen Crise<mailto:flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx>
; Dave Rothrock<mailto:daver@xxxxxxxxxx> ; Gary
Wood<mailto:brushycreekfc@xxxxxxxxx> ; Jake
Jordan<mailto:keysjake@xxxxxxx> ; Mark
Kreider<mailto:mkreider1@xxxxxxx> ; Tom
Harper<mailto:tharper@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Nial
Logan<mailto:niallogan@xxxxxxxxxx> ; Doug
Hart<mailto:captdoug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Sheila
Hassan<mailto:sheila@xxxxxxxxxx> ; Floyd
Franke<mailto:ephemera@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Jerry Iverson<mailto:iverson@xxxxxxxxx> ; Gary
Meyer<mailto:gladesflybum@xxxxxxxxx> ; Charlie
Shedd<mailto:crazycharlie@xxxxxxx> ; Clay
Roberts<mailto:croberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Bob
Rumph<mailto:caddis@xxxxxxx> ; Bill
Howland<mailto:mildbill@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Walter
Simbirski<mailto:simbirsw@xxxxxxx> ;
hillshead@xxxxxxx
<mailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx%3cmailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx>
<mailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx> ; Kathleen
Wagner<mailto:kathleen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Dermon
Sox<mailto:DermSox@xxxxxxx> ; Kim
Boal<mailto:thedamselfly@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Ray
Rhash<mailto:ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Peter
Lami<mailto:plami@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; gavin
platz<mailto:gavin@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Ron Kerr<mailto:kerrrc@xxxxxxxxx> ;
Jerry Puckett<mailto:jerry_puckett2001@xxxxxxxxx> ; Bryan
Nims<mailto:Brydnlnims@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Dana
Stern<mailto:blacksalmon@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Jerry
Simons<mailto:jfs523@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Cezanne
Alexander<mailto:cezannealexander@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Don
Jackson<mailto:donjack@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Michael
Gallert<mailto:trallag@xxxxxxx> ; Douglas
Swift<mailto:douglas.swift@sympaticoca
<mailto:douglas.swift@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > ; Cathy Lee
Hill<mailto:hillcathy@xxxxxxx> ; Jim Valle<mailto:jfv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ;
Ron Pedegana<mailto:fraudflies@xxxxxxx> ; Bob
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Maynard<mailto:erniemaynard@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Paul
Arden<mailto:paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: Mini quiz
Hi, Jeff.....
A 10 wt. system would have made that into-the-wind with a heavy
fly cast a bit easier, to be sure. However, by using the techniques
described in my answers, we were able to get that fly out just fine
with the 9 wt. outfit on the 1st day. On the second day the wind and
rain were even worse. I switched to an 8 wt. outfit to enjoy
catching some of the snappers (juvenile bluefish). These fish
weighed only about 1 lb. or less.....so the 10 wt. would have been ok
for the conditions, but overkill for the smaller fish.
Using these techniques including the heavy fly (in case of a
striper hookup) we could still make those casts just fine with the 8
wt. outfit.
The density compensated sinker......even a class III line is MUCH
more difficult to handle under these circumstances.....and a class
IV, almost impossible, even though the latter would have allowed the
use of a lighter fly.
For better than 90% of these salt water conditions, we DO use
intermediate lines as a really workable compromise. This line even
allows for the sudden switch to a surface popper or slider without
changing lines, for when the fish start crashing on top.
Even when I set out to fish primarily with a popper, I elect to
use an intermediate....not a floating line. The floater will often
pop the fly right out of the water as you work it....it, also, will
not be as good for popping a train of attractive bubbles just under
the surface film.....in all, I get fewer hookups with the floater.
Also, the intermediate line has less diameter and bulk because it's
more dense than a floater of the same wt. This also helps shoot your
loop out into the wind. I wouldn't use a full sink line, because it
quickly takes your fly down to kingdom come.....so it just doesn't
pop after the first couple of strips.
I'll often use the intermediate line for small tarpon in water
only 12" to 18" deep on the flats. Then I'm also ready to fish more
deeply at the edge of channels without changing lines or outfits.
The trick, here, is to make your cast and stop it before the fly
lands using a triple haul (check haul).......and literally start your
retrieve AS your fly hits the water. That way, your intermediate
line "becomes a floater".
Another advantage of the Intermediate line, is that you can allow
it to sink JUST enough to get it below scattered floating weeds
before retrieving.
Lastly, you can buy intermediate lines with clear coating, or
clear tip. I've never run across density compensated sinkers which
are clear.
One more reason for avoiding that density compensated sinker, was
that there were fierce back currents near the sand bar. To avoid a
belly in the retrieved line due to this current, it was easy to make
repeated on-the-water mends. I doubt I could have done that with the
heavier line. Minimizing that current belly, made the strip-strike
more effective.
Though I tried, I couldn't make decent in-the-air mends when
using that thrust cast into the wind. There is so much loop speed
that it straightens out the mend every time.
As Tom White teaches so well, there are many factors which go
into your choice of line in fresh water or the salt:-
1. The casting conditions, including distance and wind.
2. Depth of water to be fished.
3. Depth that the fish are feeding.
4. Surface weeds or deep kelp weeds.
5. Size of the quarry.
6. Size of the prey upon which the fish are feeding.
7. Size and weight of the fly.
8, Length and design of the leader needed.
9. Strength and casting ability of the angler. (A 13 wt. outfit
might be fine for the fish and the casting conditions.......but
impossible for some anglers to handle.)
10. The fighting attributes of the fish.
11. The temperature of the water (and the air)
12. The ferocity of the sun's rays. (Tropic lines have sun
screens added to the coating, and are stiffer.)
13. The need to change lines or heads frequently. (As in fishing
for Salmon and Steelhead in Alaskan rivers with different river
depths and current velocities, etc.)
14. Weather you wish to GET the fly down deep, or KEEP it down
deep for your fly to have a long sojourn in the strike zone. (For the
former, a sink tip.....for the latter, a full sink density
compensated, with class designation appropriate to the depth and
current velocity.)
14. I guess we should add, ANGLER PREFERENCE.....the, " Je ne
sais quoi". (One angler finding his choice more suited to his
fishing style than that of another.)
Good stuff to keep us thinking !!!!!!!!
Gordy
----- Original Message -----
From: JEFFERY BAREFOOT<mailto:barefootj@xxxxxxx>
To: Gordon Hill<mailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: Mini quiz
Hi Gordy,
Having the opportunity, and the option, would you have
preferred a 10 wt. in this situation instead of your nine? I get a
lot of different opinions from different anglers on which line weight
tackle to use for unprotected waters. Also for most unprotected
inshore situations most get 90% of it done w/an intermediate line.
Every so often for some situations a compensated sinker. An now and
then a floater. What are your thoughts on this.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Hill<mailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx>
To: Kirk Eberhard<mailto:captkirk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Chuck
Easterling<mailto:creangler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Lawrence
Baggett<mailto:glbaggett@xxxxxxxxx> ; Randy
Olson<mailto:bigfly@xxxxxxxxx> ; Steve
Jacob<mailto:scjacobs@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Rick
Whorwood<mailto:whorwood@xxxxxxxxx> ; Dennis
Grant<mailto:dennisg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; John
Wilson<mailto:flyfishar@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Dan
Wright<mailto:dwright@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Bob
Andreae<mailto:sobbobfish@xxxxxxx> ; Dusty
Sprague<mailto:dsprague01@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Peter
Minnick<mailto:pminnick@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Marty
Tannahil<mailto:martyt@xxxxxxxxxx> ; Jim
Brady<mailto:bradyir@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Tom
White<mailto:tomwhite@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Ken
Cole<mailto:ken.cole@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Bruce
Chard<mailto:CAPTPERMIT@xxxxxxx> ; Roman
Glemba<mailto:flycasts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Bob
Tabbert<mailto:rtab@xxxxxxx> ; Allen Crise<mailto:flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx>
; Dave Rothrock<mailto:daver@xxxxxxxxxx> ; Gary
Wood<mailto:brushycreekfc@xxxxxxxxx> ; Jake
Jordan<mailto:keysjake@xxxxxxx> ; Mark
Kreider<mailto:mkreider1@xxxxxxx> ; Jeffery
Barefoot<mailto:barefootj@xxxxxxx> ; Tom
Harper<mailto:tharper@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Nial
Logan<mailto:niallogan@xxxxxxxxxx> ; Doug
Hart<mailto:captdoug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Sheila
Hassan<mailto:sheila@xxxxxxxxxx> ; Floyd
Franke<mailto:ephemera@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Jerry Iverson<mailto:iverson@xxxxxxxxx> ; Gary
Meyer<mailto:gladesflybum@xxxxxxxxx> ; Charlie
Shedd<mailto:crazycharlie@xxxxxxx> ; Clay
Roberts<mailto:croberts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Bob
Rumph<mailto:caddis@xxxxxxx> ; Bill
Howland<mailto:mildbill@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Walter
Simbirski<mailto:simbirsw@xxxxxxx> ;
hillshead@xxxxxxx
<mailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx%3cmailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx>
<mailto:hillshead@xxxxxxx> ; Kathleen
Wagner<mailto:kathleen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Dermon
Sox<mailto:DermSox@xxxxxxx> ; Kim
Boal<mailto:thedamselfly@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Ray
Rhash<mailto:ray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Peter
Lami<mailto:plami@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; gavin
platz<mailto:gavin@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Ron Kerr<mailto:kerrrc@xxxxxxxxx> ;
Jerry Puckett<mailto:jerry_puckett2001@xxxxxxxxx> ; Bryan
Nims<mailto:Brydnlnims@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Dana
Stern<mailto:blacksalmon@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Jerry
Simons<mailto:jfs523@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Cezanne
Alexander<mailto:cezannealexander@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Don
Jackson<mailto:donjack@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Michael
Gallert<mailto:trallag@xxxxxxx> ; Douglas
Swift<mailto:douglas.swift@sympaticoca
<mailto:douglas.swift@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > ; Cathy Lee
Hill<mailto:hillcathy@xxxxxxx> ; Jim Valle<mailto:jfv@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ;
Ron Pedegana<mailto:fraudflies@xxxxxxx> ; Bob
Beanblossom<mailto:bobbeanblossom@xxxxxxx> ; Tom
Bell<mailto:snowmonkey29@xxxxxxx> ; Frank
Ogden<mailto:flyfsfrank@xxxxxxx> ; Jim
Phillips<mailto:skifishvail@xxxxxxxx> ; Ken
Cole<mailto:ken.cole@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Jeff
Wagner<mailto:jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Jim
Penrod<mailto:t.maltese@xxxxxxxxx> ;
gregrahe<mailto:gregrahe@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Molly
Semenik<mailto:mollysemenik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Ian
Muirhead<mailto:ianmuirhead@xxxxxxx> ; Shane
Morrison<mailto:shane@xxxxxxxxx> ; Ernie
Maynard<mailto:erniemaynard@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; Paul
Arden<mailto:paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 6:00 PM
Subject: Mini quiz
Group....
I sent you what I felt were the best answers......shows that
there are many ways of "skinning the cat" in solving fly casting
problems.
One method which would have worked, is to walk way
back......65-70 feet on the sand bar, then place the fly there on the
sand. Walk back to the casting position with the rod pointed way
back toward the fly.....and a straight line between the rod tip and
the Clouser. A good forward stroke will now do the job especially if
it's done with a really tight loop in to the wind. Problem is that
the set up takes a lot too long!
Gordy