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Gordy
From: "Gordon Hill" <hillshead@xxxxxxx>
To: flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: FW: Tailing loops
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 18:17:55 -0500
ol Al....
You made a good point, here.
A really good advanced instructors, including all MCI's should be able to duplicate virtually ALL casting errors and be able to correct them.
Being able to do this assures us that this instructor truly knows how the student is likely to be making the faulty casts. Knowing what made them is a giant step to knowing how to fix them. This is the principle behind Bruce Richards', " Six step method".
With self-training, I sometimes have found that I have a particular fault. I try to figure what I've done to produce this bad result. Once I've got the idea, I work to purposely make it a lot worse......then I back off, making it less and less of a problem. If I keep going with that, I've usually cured my problem.
I sometimes use that training algorithm with students who have trouble, "getting it" by other means.
Once in a while I'll see a problem with a back cast. I may elect to show the student how to make that same fault on his/her forward cast. That way it's easy to see, since it's out in front. We go to the correction out in front, and then translate it to the back cast. One specific fault I handle that way, is that of TICKING on the back cast.
Gordy
From: "Allen Crise" <flysoup@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Rod Henderson
Subject: FW: Tailing loops
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 16:48:44 -0600
Howdy Rod
You have stated a problem that many have when testing. Doing it wrong. Or
why should I want to cast wrong. When teaching you often have to be able to
do what the student did to make it wrong. Then show how to do it right.
Your problem is you are trying to do it with just a hand path of Casting
plane. Remember that the SLP is of the Rod tip. If you will think of what
would it would take to make the tip dip.
Overloading. incorrect application of power, Really bad hand path.
ol Al
Allen Crise FFF Master Casting Instructor
SOC VP of Education
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roderick [mailto:roderickmpt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:37 PM
To: Allen Crise
Subject: Tailing loops
Ok Al. Here goes my first question. My casting IQ has gone up since
reading some of these posts so far by the way. I'm looking forward to
learning more. My question pertains to tailing loops.
I understand that tailing loops can be created when the rod tip passes
beneath what would be the SLP of the rod. However, what occurs at the hand
to create this concave dip? I have been trying to create tailing loops
since our last lesson but am having difficulty. I know that's a good thing
but I'd like to have the control to consistently demonstrate tight and
tailing loops and learning what happens at the hand might be a start. Is
this the correct way to approach this?