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Walter & Group...
[GH] More answers. Lots to learn.
From Bob Hansell:
Learning by Teaching
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[GH] Several of you have come up with the value of learning as we teach. I have learned a great deal that way over the years. Some of our most difficult students teach us as we work to solve their casting problems.
I noted that when my grandson began to teach his friends, he became a much better fly caster!
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From Jim Dowd:
All of the factors you cited, fueled by passion ~ the greatest factor of them all...
Best wishes,
jim dowd
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From Larry Zelenz:
Gordy,
One word answer for me would be "experience".
I come out of a background of what sometimes was called "Experiential Education" and tend to think all learning is the result of an experience/feedback loop. The many methods of learning discussed in this forum are all ways of "experiencing". Even knowledge gained from a book is really engaging in someone else's experience, vicariously. Sometimes students have to have time to cast without over instruction or concern for "getting it right", time to get the repeated physical feel of casting to build a base (good and bad) to grow out of. I see my role when teaching any physical skill as facilitating the student's experience by giving them time to do the skill, offering feedback in ways that help the student gain insight and, finally, providing an appropriate combination of challenge and reward to keep them growing in the experience.
Larry
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[GH] Larry,
This gets very close to what I was looking for. Experience with ongoing feedback is necessary to hone the skills of the budding fly caster.
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From Jim Rainey:
Gordy: While this is probably encapsulated in some of the other learning methods (seeing, hearing, cognition) you cite, I find “inspiration” to be a very effective method of learning.
When I was about ten years old, I was “inspired” to learn how to fly fish when I started thumbing through, then reading more thoroughly, my father’s copy of Ray Bergman’s Just Fishing. It has remained a fundamental resource for my education as a fly fisher over the subsequent 55 years, not only for the lessons it contains but for the values that it inspires. Just a couple of years ago, I heard Joe Humphreys describe his early life as a non-focused youth struggling with his early grammar school education, until he picked up a copy of Just Fishing. It inspired him to bring his own life into focus. I asked Joe to inscribe my copy of Bergman’s book with the words: “To Jim Rainey, and to the book that inspired both of us.”
Jim
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From Lyth Hartz:
Happy New Year Gordy,
Great question. I watched the video and I think the answer is Desire or Hunger followed by Perseverance. As instructors we hope to instill this desire for casting in our students.
Best,
Lyth Hartz
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[GH] Jim & Lyth:
Yes. Inspiration is important to the learner. The student becomes inspired .... but it is usually the teacher who provides inspiration.
Inspiration can also come from a book or from a particular quest or experience.
Desire and hunger to learn are oft the product of inspiration.
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From Frank Harford:
Hi Gordy
You might add self- hypnosis to the list . The trance of course , is very much akin to evening reverie .
One thing that encompasses many of these is feed back from a qualified observer .
Frank
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>From Len Anderson:
I have learned a great deal from different situations I've come across while fishing and guiding in a variety of fresh and saltwater fisheries. It seems I a lot of my personal aha moments come when I have to solve a problem to get the fly to the fish under less then perfect conditions. Once I recognize this I can go back to the grass and practice casting, trying to duplicate the problem to improve my odds and that of my client if I come across a similar situation in the future.
Len Anderson
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[GH] Len,
I've often done that, especially when I've failed to meet my objective while fishing. It "burns a hole in my brain" until I can relax with no fish around and solve the problem by practicing various methods until (hopefully) I've finally got it. Doing it on grass and then honing it with repetitive practice as you do is a great way to tackle the problem. You sure aren't going to be distracted by fish on the lawn !
Using different words, this speaks to the answer i was looking for.
Gordy
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Gary Davison sends a second message:
Great question Gordy!
Ted provided direct method with no avail.
I look forward to seeing the answer that Steve has provided.
Probably learn as if you life depended on it! ;o)
Gary
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[GH] Gary,
Direct method is just that... a method of teaching. I'm looking for methods of learning.
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[GH] PETER MINNICK AND JERALD LEWIS JOIN STEVE SMITH IN COMING UP WITH THE EXACT ANSWER. THIS MORNING, KEN COLE CAME IN WITH HIS SECOND ANSWER WHICH ALLOWS HIM TO JOIN.
TOMORROW: ONE FINAL HINT WHICH I THINK WILL TURN ON THE LIGHT.
Gordy
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