The "Upside down roll cast 2

Walter & Group...

[GH]  From Phil Gay:

Gordy,

 

I tried Paul's cast on the river yesterday.  It was doable for sure.  However Ally's idea of making an off shoulder cast is likely easier to teach and demonstrate.

 

Phil

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[GH] I got it to work OK, too. (If I'm really doing it the way he does).

The "off the opposite shoulder" roll cast is what I usually use. One problem with that one appears when you try to do it with a strong wind coming on to that side.  Not good any time you have to place your D-loop on the windy side.

Gordy

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[GH]  Ally Gowans joins the rest of us in making a retraction of a little, "OOPS" :

Hi Gordy,

 

Oops! I meant to say” I should add that for these casts I wouldn’t use a “dead line” roll cast, in fact during practical fishing I almost never use a dead line roll cast”. I learn to pause for a wee ‘t’ like my wife does!

 

Best regards,

Ally Gowans

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[GH]  Ally,

As I think about it, I can come with a reason or two for using a dead line roll cast for other situations -

1.  When "at the ready" to make a quick roll presentation to a rise or approaching fish.

2.  Same thing when awaiting a lull between wind gusts or (in the salt) the perfect wave.

3.  When demonstrating a ROLL CAST SET-UP to students.

4.  I've seen competition accuracy casters do that for roll cast events.  Sort of the way a golfer does it as he hesitates before making the "winning putt".

I'm sure there are more...........

Gordy

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[GH]  From Paul Bourcq :

Gordy, sounds like he is pronating his wrist in the front cast. It would create a loop plane under the rod tip. It could be done with a back cast, d loop, or any constant tension setup. Looking forward to the discussion.

Paul

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[GH] Paul,

Several ways of getting that loop.

I can get that reversed loop plane by supinating my wrist as I make a sidearm roll cast delivery.*

* Pronated wrist = wrist rotated so palm is facing downward.

  Supinated wrist = wrist rotated so palm is facing upward.

Gordy

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