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Walter & Group...
[GH] Let's digress back to Task 5 for a moment.
For some, the link Paul Arden sent didn't come through on my attachment in yesterday's message.
Here it is .
Hi guys,
the above is a video showing 2 casts shot at 240fps.
1. No pull-back
2. Pull-back
As can be seen in this case pull-back occurs pre-RSP and therefore cannot be considered a mend using your definitions but instead part of the Casting Stroke.
Cheers, Paul
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[GH] From Walter Simbirski :
Hi Gordy,
Paul Arden brings up an interesting point - is it a cast or a mend? The defining moment that we typically use to
separate the two is the stop, i.e. before the stop = cast, and after the stop = mend. The problem, as we see
from Paul's video, is that the stop is not an instantaneous event. One could argue that Paul's pullback occurs
after the butt of the rod has reached its maximum forward position and, therefore, is after the stop which makes
it a mend.
Great example of a second mode response in the rod!
Walter
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[GH] Walter,
As you may imaging, with over 300 participants, I get far more messages than I can possibly share. Many duplications of opinion. Especially with hot button issues such as this one.
After the "stop" ? Or about 0.1 sec. later at RSP # 1 ??? Or perhaps after the start of loop formation ???
Arguable ? Certainly.
Of theoretical importance, ? YES. Of practical importance ? Perhaps not.
Problem is multifold Regardless of what we choose to call these moves : -
1. Human senses cannot distinguish between the stop sequence and RSP #1.
2. My description ("working definition") of MEND as "repositioning the line after the cast" may be shared by many, but certainly not everyone. I respect that. I realize that "after the cast" can be translated into "after completion of the casting stroke" which can, technically, be at one of several points or ranges.
3. This really boils down to practicum when the MCI Testing Committee decides what to actually allow on the exam for the curve cast task.
a. Some take the position that the only powered curve cast allowed should be one in which no secondary movement of the rod or any form of mend or pull-back occurs. (The present interpretation of the task 5 description and expectations.)
b. Many, around the World, see it differently. They feel strongly that pull-back or secondary mend should be allowed. Their reasoning :
1. Almost all accomplished fly fishers do it that way when fishing.
2. Many instructors have been teaching it that way for years.
3. Making an efficient powered curve cast is more easily done that way.
4. This is the obvious way to augment the curve layout.
5. Making a curve cast layout without the secondary moves (pull-back included) can be seen as an arbitrary contrivance. OK when used by instructors to isolate individual casting moves to make a point when teaching casting mechanics ..... but not otherwise useful.
6. After the physical casts are completed by the candidate, he may be asked to teach it. Now; is he to do so as he really has been teaching it ? Or do so without the secondary moves of pull-back or mend ?
Gordy
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