Walter & Group....
Reminder for letters to Al Crise :
Gordy,
Tom, I will attend and would count it an honor to carry any
communication to Al. You can send it to me at 1435 Holly Ridge Drive,
Keller, TX 76248. Or I will print and hand carries a printed copy of your
E-mails. Al's Address is Allen Crise, 2508 A County Rd, 1011, Glen Rose,
TX 76043
We've got Peter Minnick thinking about this material while skiing ! G.
The threads on the essentials and
variables are great....I think about it at night before dozing off
after another incredible day of skiing... This is unreal....and did I
ever tell you that skiing is very similar to the cast?
Skis bend for a reason and the fall line is the SLP. Come out of your turn too soon
and you don't have a tail but have caught a" track". Timing is
everything !
Peter
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From Marc Fauvet,
hi Gordy,
re - variables
this has been a very interesting and thought provoking discussion.
personally, i consider all practical casts to be variables and i particularly liked Jim Chestnut's example of the 'five fault' cast to express this.
i practice, demonstrate and 'fish' the cast he describes a lot and i'll add that we can go one step further and break the 180° principle as well by using this as the forward cast of a steeple cast, efficiently reducing the casting arc to approximately 100° - 110°.
with this extreme angle reduction we basically have no other choice but to throw a tailing loop, but in this case it's a controlled tailing loop where the line doesn't actually collide, but swings out of plane slightly and results in the upside down loop that Jim describes, kicks up and lands gently.
it's also a nice replacement to a parachute cast in tight quarters.
Jim, could you give the reference to the tailing loop thread on Sexyloops please ?(there's a lot of 'em... )
cheers,
marc fauvet
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Mac Brown, Ally Gowans and I have had some fruitful private messages during the past few days. I'm taking the liberty of plucking what I think are words of wisdom from one of Mac's messages on the variables as ways of deviating from the concept of "straight line overhead casts" to make useful fishing presentations. G.
Lefty and I were doing demo's for the FFF nationals over in TN. I had not
come out with my text at the time, but I presented for a little over an hour
with nothing being straight (fishing casts). I guess when you do nothing but
fishing casts / it can turn someones model of casting inside /out. They either
become curious about how you do it, or they ignore it and stay with what they
know (straight).
I think many instructors/students will always choose
either school of thought. One will make them masters with a rod and the other
will limit what exists. That is as polite of a way I can think to write it down.
If they are content believing the world is flat and that is all they want, I am
o.k. with that. As a teacher, I become much more excited in dealing with those
who want the other.
We are in congruence in our methods of thinking. I
can tell you that here in the states thinking in this way does not win any
popularity contests! The demo's at shows even end up calling it "trick casting".
Has been this way for years for the most part. I am sure that most everything we
play with over the years is an essential variable at some point for solving on
the water problems. The less variables one understands, the more limiting the
fishing becomes.
I like thinking of all
specialty casting with terms like momentum, tension, inertia and add a little
rhythm. I had to learn these terms in the early 90's to make the jump into
explaining what I was doing during the casting stroke. I was very fortunate to
have a brilliant physics guru at the University to guide me along. I ended up
being at his office 5 days a week going over things! I never had an interest in
physics until I was compiling my thoughts. So much easier to learn something new
when we can apply it to something we love. Glen Liming was his name. It was
great for both us looking back!
Thanks Gordy and Ally for the exchanges
the past few days.
Take care,
Mac
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From Will Turek ...
Hey Gordy,
Though late to enter the fray, my 2 cents is that there are three essentials to any cast: resistance, acceleration and stop. Everything else is a variable to either maximize efficiency and/or achieve specific casting objectives. The only "bad" cast is one that fails to achieve the casting objective. In my classes I leave out good/bad, right/wright terminology and only once students demonstrate a mastery of those three essentials move on to focus on the causal relationship between more effective/efficient or less effective/efficient variables that affect achievement of specific casting objectives.
And just for the record, I don't care for the terminology of essentials and variables. Neither is precise or scientific, and therefore inadequate in the context of a discussion that is really about theory, principles, attributes, and phenomena that affect casting objectives. Since the written word is the choice of media for this discussion group, I firmly believe semantics is vital to meaningful communication and establishing consensus. Sure will be nice once the BOG gives us a common lexicon to discuss these matters...
W
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From Gary Davison :