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Walter & Group...

From Al Crise:

Howdy Gordy and Gang

  One of My concepts of curves and layouts is Line Slipping. Some might call it shooting others Rod fade. To obtain more line on the surface of the water you have to let go of it. After I set a loop in motion I use the rod to aim my slack where I want it.

 It is like two cast, one sets the fly going in 'that' direction then I set my loop/slack going it 'that' direction. Most often up stream or off to the side of a obstruction.

  This two in one cast requires more line out of the rod tip. Hence a line slip.

  Point of clarification  Shooting: The loop energy is pulling the line out of the rod

                            Slipping: The rod is pulling the line out by moving opposite the loop.

  I have my student learn to shoot line, then slip line. Then we go to making some great hooks with lots of slack on the water. This is what I use for working a bank or shore line. I can set my fly 5 ft to my left 30 ft out. Set fly leg along the bank and my loop 10-15 ft to the right of the fly. It takes very little to learn this style of layouts. 'Compound casts' might be a term for this style.

 As with mends at 35-40 ft you can set the mend loop on its way then shoot some line behind it to make the longer mends.

 If given a target that is close and I have lots of line in the air. I set the fly to the target spot and the slack off to the side in a nice slack line cast 90 degrees to me. These cast are accurate in you set the fly first then the slack second.

 

Just a different way of getting the cows in the barn.

 

ol Al

 

Allen R. Crise
FFF-Master Casting Instructor

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Al... Yes, indeed.  The term "compound casts" might well apply..... or the term I've been using:  "Cast/mends".

 

Gordy

 

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From Thomas Berggren :

Hi Gordy & Al,

 

I’m definitely not a computer hi tech guy, but a few month ago I bought a new Lap-Top computer and it had a webcam and Skype installed. That was totally new for me! Skype is free phone calls between Skype users. It is free to install and it’s totally free to call other Skype user world wide. You can also make group calls to have a phone conference.

 

I have already tried to use it as a teaching tool and it’s perfect to give tuition about the orals. Both student and teacher can see each other; draw sketches, showing arc, angles and motion in real time.

Last weekend in Munich, Raffaele Mascaro, Robert Gillespie and I discussed about using Skype as a teaching tool. And we all agree about the good use of Skype.
Let’s say you have a student preparing for MCI and you offer him/her a dry-run on the orals. The student call you up, “Skype you” and though you can watch exactly how the student reacts when you ask a question because it’s real time. It will show if the student “take to long time” or have a “short, direct to the target” answer, it will be exactly the same effect as during a real test.

If we doing the same thing by using email, we miss that effect because the student have a lot of time to think……

          

So, what are you guys think about develop an FFF- routine for Dry-Run-Orals on Skype?
There are a lot of possibilities with Skype…..

 

Please, let me know your thoughts!  

 Get Skype!
http://www.skype.com

 Regards//

 Thomas Berggren, Certified Instructor
 FFF -  Federation Of Fly Fishers,
THCI - Two Handed Certified Instructor.
 MCI  -  Master Certified Instructor.


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CI - Certified Instructor.

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Malma-Brogetorp
640 32 Malmkoping
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Thomas ....   I'm no "techy" either, by any means !   I'd briefly heard about Skype but no details and had never thought to embrace it.

Sounds as though it might well be a great teaching tool, however.

After I typed the first part of this answer, I called my son, Ken.  He is a super techy !  (Builds his own computers from component parts and repairs all his friends as well as my computers, etc.)  Ken has used Skype here in the U.S.A. and found it very unsatisfactory .....  lots of dropped calls, static, pictures unclear and fading out. A frustrating experience.  He says it works much better in Europe for some reason.

I suspect, however, that as with many things local problems will eventually be worked out.

Gordy

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                                                                         "Yarnless yarn fly"

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From Dan Storaska:

Gordy,

 

I was wondering how you found the fly that Tony describes below?  The only thing I haven't tried is casting it on water, so I don't know if it floats or not.

I finally made it over to my local HW store, picked up some masonry line and tied about a 1 inch piece into a loop held by the nail knot.  I have to say that it worked great for me.  Infinitely better than the yarn flies.  I fully agree with Lefty - I was struggling to turn them over in even the lightest of breezes. 

 

 I also attempted using a 1" piece of pipe cleaner discussed before that which did behave much closer to a real fly, the only trouble is that when I'm trying something new it would collide with the fly rod once in a while and I could hear the 'click' of the metal against the rod - gives me shivers when I consider the micro-crack being introduced into the sidewall of the graphite tube in those instances.  The masonary line behaves like a real fly as well but it's soft so I don't worry about rod damage (or self damage for that matter) in a collision.  In addition, I picked up the exact same color that Tony shows below - hot pink - and I can see the fly well out to 90 feet. 

 

Dan 

 

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Dan...  I didn't find exactly the same material, so I did what you did and tried it with various twines and lines.  I, too, found that the magenta hot pink masonry line worked fine.  After using a snell knot (nailless nail knot) to create the "eye", I unravelled the rest of it.

It did sink in water, but floated for a while when annointed with dry fly floatant.

The pipe cleaners worked OK for me, too.  My concern was not with the fly rod, but the apparent danger to the eyes of the students.  This even though I insist that they all wear protective eye gear.

I do use a weighted fly when teaching the Tuck cast variations.  When I do that, I make sure that the student making the casts is not in a position to endanger the others (or me).

When teaching salt water casts using very heavy flies, I'm ESPECIALLY careful !

Gordy

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