Wide loops

1) How do you make a larger loop?

I think that this should have read, 'Controlled' larger loop, like if we were casting a Clouser, I have attached a "ol Al mouse drawing"

A good loop has parallel Fly and Rod legs. It can be in any plane. The smaller the less air drag, The larger the less tendency to tangle but looses energy for distance (Often you will see the leader and fly drag along below the Rod leg without tailing This is just a fact of gravity.) What Tony listed below will cause a big non loop but not a Good Controlled Loop.

The controlled loop is made bigger by the distance the tip drops below the Fly Leg plane at loop formation.

Some options are:

Not load the rod loop would collapse

More convex tip path Non loop

Softer or no stop Non Loop just a pile of line

Stop the tip further below the line plane YES

Drop the rod tip after the stop YES

Use line planes at greater than 180 degrees (e.g a low back cast followed by a horizontal or downward inclined forward cast.

Most likely hit yourself in the back with the Fly. The fly will drop below the rod tip.

2) List all the ways you can make a cast with the wind on your casting arm side?

The problem is to keep the fly from hitting you. Some possible solutions are:

Yes keep the Fly Down wind.

Cant the rod away from your body and cast in a more horizontal plane

Use a Belgian style cast making the forward cast on the lee side of your body if necessary.

Cant the rod above your head and make the cast on the lee side of your body

Galway Cast on the lee side

Roll Cast off the lee shoulder

Spey cast off the lee shoulder

Cast with your other hand

Turn your body 180 degrees and present your back cast

YES These keep the fly away from the body.

3) What causes Rod loading?

Moving the rod against the inertia of a mass of fly line and leader plus any friction, such as a water anchor.

Yes This is what I was looking for the physics.

So I want you to read Newton's first and second laws' This is something that you should understand.

http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/history/newton3laws.html (You will need the First Law to answer #3)

I. Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.

Objects at rest tend to remain at rest unless acted on by an external force.

Note the word 'Motion'. This is two fold. If the back cast is still moving back wards This can add more load to the rod.

If the cast is started with the line stopped or loop just unrolled. The effect on the rod is less but still trying to get the mass moving is what has to be over come. So this adding 'Velocity' to the line a force must be applied. This Force is added to the handle of the rod. Being flexible the rod bends (loads) until the Inertia is over come. We keep adding force at a rate faster than the line can catch up. UNTIL we run out of energy, distance. At this point the line is traveling at a good speed the rod is returning to Rod Straight Position (RSP) The line in motion continues in the direction we were pulling it. passes the Rod tip and a loop is formed.

You might think of a rocket blasting off. It takes a lot of force energy to get it moving but after it is moving it can go faster with less energy. Still requires this force to increase to keep Acceleration to continue.

4) What would you do to correct in grained problems?

Identify the problem (e.g. creep)

Demonstrate the problem to extreme so that the student can readily see cause and effect (really bad creep resulting in a really narrow available casting arc causing a readily apparent tailing loop)

Identify a solution (e.g. drift)

Demonstrate the effect of the solution (wider available casting arc allowing appropriate power application, the ability to "pull a bend into the rod" rather than having to "push" the rod tip, and the ability to cast a long line.)

Confirm the student's understanding of the solution (moving the tip smoothly towards the unrolling loop while maintaining timing/tension)

Give the student a method of implementing the solution ( point the rod tip smoothly into the unrolling loop,after the stop. Turn to watch the back cast as necessary)

Set a goal for the student to indicate good performance (e.g.50ft cast with no tailing loops)

Give the student a means of remembering what to do for the future (e.g some key words, a handout or video recording).

Recommend that the student practice while the memory of the lesson is fresh so as to ingrain the improvement.

All of this weeks response have been good. Klem had some numbers that were interesting I thought.

Identify the problem. Go to the root cause. Work on finding a cure. Remember the three ways a person learns. Work on using a different way. If you are not getting the results CHANGE try something else.

5) When would you use a "reach cast mend"?

To prolong a "drag free drift" when casting across faster moving water into a slower current. Cast to a spot directly opposite, across the stream then reach mend upstream.

To prolong a "drag free drift" when casting across a steady current. Cast to a spot opposite and one rod length upstream of you, then reach mend upstream so that the entire layout is at right angles to the current and can drift downstream two rod lengths (if you follow with the rod tip) before any other mend is required to maintain the drift.

Did you read Soon Lee's article in the "LOOP" on reach casting? IF not do so. There are some Gordy Gems here too.

http://www.fedflyfishers.org/Default.aspx?tabid=4469

6) When would you use a "pile cast with slack line presentation"?

To prolong a "drag free drift" in complex currents such as "pocket water" or spring creeks.

Saltwater casters can use this to get a Clouser down in a tidal current. The floating line will pull the fly to the surface in moving waters. The Slack will buffer this dragging up.

Ok now you that would like to offer more on this week, Send it in.

ol AL