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    Walter & Group....

    Out of our total of 150 Study Group members, 19 of you got temporarily kicked out of the system two days ago, when I sent a complicated message complete with multiple photo's in an attachment.

    I think that was due to the message being kicked back when your servers or computers wouldn't handle that load. Those messages were returned as, "undeliverable" and the MailList Controller responded by placing your names and addresses on the, "returned" list and off the, "subscriber" list.

    I've reinstated all of you and apologize for the problem.  I'll try to prevent that in the future by not overloading.  Sending videos to some of you can be a real problem unless sent by link.

    For benefit of those who didn't get those messages, I'll do a brief re-cap, because I feel that this subject is too important to be missed by so many of you :-

     

    We were discussing the difference between a REACH MEND and a true REACH CAST.

    My take is that since I see a MEND as repositioning the line after the cast, that many so-called reach casts are really reach mends when they are performed by first making the cast and then sweeping the rod to the side as the reach.

    If the reach is made as the cast is made... or as a non-stop continuation of the cast as the caster reaches out to the side, then I see that as a REACH CAST.

    I think it is emportant enough for you to see what is probably the best way to do and to teach this that I'm repeating Phil Gay's brief and to the point message.  Heed it and the attached string of messages carefully :-

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    From Phil Gay........

    Gordy,
     
        If one actually stops the rod for a period of time the reach cast is poorly executed as there will be a short straight section in the line and or leader.  This straight section be pulled out but I consider that bad technique in the attempt to achieve a straight line from the rod tip to the fly.  When I teach this cast I advocate never stopping the rod.  I have the student make an "L" in the air with the rod tip.  I believe this is a reach cast  because the loop and therefore the direction of the cast  is determined at the poiint the rod stops going forward.  This a defacto stop.  A reach  mend can be made after the line is on the water or while it is still in the air.
     
        Just my thoughts as this is a cast I live with on a daily basis.
     
    Phil
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    My return message:
     
    Phil...
     
    Done the way you describe, it surely is a REACH CAST, because you make both the forward move and the side sweep as a continuous operation. Yours is a nice refinement which works very well and is probably the best way to teach it. 
     
    You are correct in that if I stop and hesitate before making the side sweep, the layout is as you describe.  The longer the hesitation, the worse the layout.
     
    Having said all that, however, I can make a stop and IMMEDIATELY make my side sweep as I slip line and come out with a perfect layout, too. When I do that, I consider I've made a REACH MEND. 
     
    Gordy
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    His response :
     
    Gordy,
     
        I agree that you can stop and then slip line to get a perfect layout, but I think that happens because as you are slipping you are also pulling out any straight section in the cast.
     
    Phil
     
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    (Comment:  I think he's right about that, because even when slipping line, there is still some tension in the system....... Gordy)~
     
    MCCI candidates should take note of the crisp, concise way Phil's descriptions are.  That caused Dennis Grant to send this message:
     
    Hi Gordy
     
    Phil's Reach cast description is right on !!  This is same way I teach the Reach and Phil's ability to make his definition briefly and to the point is a great lesson for MCI candidates. The additional point is well made that he 'live's with (this cast) on a daily basis.' A comment made by you quite often.  It is one exercise to practice the cast in the back yard but putting it to use on a trout stream, like Phil, or on the flats, like yourself,  is MCI preparation that is invaluable.
     
    Regards, Dennis
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

     

     

    Gordy