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- Subject: Addresses kicked out of the system / REACH CAST
- Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 19:44:22 -0400
Walter & Group....
Out of our total of 150 Study Group members, 19 of you got temporarily kicked
out of the system two days ago, when I sent a complicated message complete with
multiple photo's in an attachment.
I think that was due to the message being kicked back when your servers or
computers wouldn't handle that load. Those messages were returned as,
"undeliverable" and the MailList Controller responded by placing your names and
addresses on the, "returned" list and off the, "subscriber" list.
I've reinstated all of you and apologize for the problem. I'll try to
prevent that in the future by not overloading. Sending videos to some of
you can be a real problem unless sent by link.
For benefit of those who didn't get those messages, I'll do a brief re-cap,
because I feel that this subject is too important to be missed by so many of you
:-
We were discussing the difference between a REACH MEND and a true REACH
CAST.
My take is that since I see a MEND as repositioning the line after the cast,
that many so-called reach casts are really reach mends when they are performed
by first making the cast and
then sweeping the rod to the side as the reach.
If the reach is made as the cast is made... or as a non-stop continuation of
the cast as the caster reaches out to the side, then I see that as a REACH
CAST.
I think it is emportant enough for you to see what is probably the best way
to do and to teach this that I'm repeating Phil Gay's brief and to the point
message. Heed it and the attached string of messages carefully :-
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From Phil Gay........
Gordy,
If one actually stops
the rod for a period of time the reach cast is poorly executed as there will be
a short straight section in the line and or leader. This straight section
be pulled out but I consider that bad technique in the attempt to achieve a
straight line from the rod tip to the fly. When I teach this cast I
advocate never stopping the rod. I have the student make an "L" in the air
with the rod tip. I believe this is a reach cast because the loop
and therefore the direction of the cast is determined at the poiint the
rod stops going forward. This a defacto stop. A reach mend can
be made after the line is on the water or while it is still in the
air.
Just my thoughts as
this is a cast I live with on a daily basis.
Phil
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My return message:
Phil...
Done the way you describe, it surely is a REACH CAST, because you make both the forward move and
the side sweep as a continuous operation. Yours is a nice refinement which
works very well and is probably the best way to teach it.
You are correct in that if I stop and hesitate before making the side
sweep, the layout is as you describe. The longer the hesitation, the worse
the layout.
Having said all that, however, I can make a stop and IMMEDIATELY make my
side sweep as I slip line and come out with a perfect layout, too. When I do
that, I consider I've made a REACH MEND.
Gordy
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His response :
Gordy,
I agree that you can
stop and then slip line to get a perfect layout, but I think that happens
because as you are slipping you are also pulling out any straight section in the
cast.
Phil
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(Comment: I think he's right about that, because even when slipping
line, there is still some tension in the system....... Gordy)~
MCCI candidates should take note of the crisp, concise way Phil's
descriptions are. That caused Dennis Grant to send this
message:
Hi
Gordy
Phil's Reach cast description is right on !! This is same
way I teach the Reach and Phil's ability to make his definition briefly and
to the point is a great lesson for MCI candidates. The additional point is well
made that he 'live's with (this cast)
on a daily basis.' A comment made by you quite often. It is one exercise
to practice the cast in the back yard but putting it to use on a trout
stream, like Phil, or on the flats, like yourself, is MCI preparation that
is invaluable.
Regards, Dennis
Gordy