Curve casts, curve, "cast/mends" & Loop planes

Hi Gordy and Jeff,
I think we've gotten to the point with this one where we need to cast
together to make sure we're all on the same wavelength. I haven't thought
of curves in nearly the detail and variety as you have and suspect my
vision is much more simplistic than yours. It is good to see that we all
agree (I think) on the loop plane issue, it is very hard to do these casts
with a vertical plane and a wrist flick..... Personally, I have little
interest in doing casts a hard way if an easier way is available!
I still believe that overpowered curves are caused entirely by the "kick"
of the overpowered loop and that the rod tip counterflex (which impacts
loop bottom leg) doesn't impact that, but I'd sure like to watch others
make the cast, I'm sure we don't do everything the same.

Sorry I couldn't spend more time on this, I've been out a bit recently and
am far behind on a lot of things....
Regards,
Bruce

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For me, it IS more difficult to use a strictly vertical rod plane and a wrist flip for a distance curve, though it works OK for a short curve cast.

Only practical use for this which I can see, is when casting with obstructions on either side but not overhead when a short curve cast is needed. Even then casting with a slightly off vertical rod plane makes it a lot easier.

It will be great to get together and actually do some of these casts. They're fun !

Jeff's casting demo of loop planes is something we all should see ... and THEN draw conclusions.

I think that the counterflex of an overpowered curve cast probably does a lot less than the REBOUND which follows it. "Assisting" this rebound with a lightning quick mend in the direction opposite that of the fly, accentuates the belly of the curve. This is what I meant when I spoke of a, "curve cast/mend".