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- Subject: Curve "cast-mend" Leader construction
- Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2007 17:46:42 -0400
Walter& Group........
I'm back in the saddle.
Let's start off with Bruce Richards' last comment on the concept of,
"cast-mend" :-
Yes, I agree. Unassisted counterflex/rebound is a natural part of any
cast,
and the bottom leg "bump" caused by it is pulled out by line tension,
under
normal conditions,so it has no effect on curves/hooks. But if the
caster
accentuates it, it becomes a mend, of course....
Bruce
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Brain teaser question from Jeff Barefoot (He always makes us think deep )
:-
Hi Folks,
Here's something to think about. You have
just thrown an overpowered hook cast. Anatomically the style in which you did
it, whether wrist flick, forearm flip, etc or whatever is not what
we should focus on. If it lands to the left or right the loop plane
had to be at least somewhat in the horizontal. That’s a given. So please
let's not discuss any of those factors. Let's just say that an
overpowered horizontal loop was created by one means or
another.
Here's the issue in which I'm very interested in
your opinion. OK the loop is overpowered and it's tight......let's say the
angular velocity is an honest m......mmm one foot. OK, so now it's a one foot
overpowered horizontal loop. Now imagine in slow motion that this
loop is unrolling and unrolling. The fly leg is getting shorter and shorter and
going from dynamic to static........now the leader [short and blunt taper]
starts to turn over..... now there is only 36" of leader remaining to turn
over......now there is only 24" of leader left to turn over...... and at
last now there is only 12" left. [Now picture these freeze frame
photographs in your mind] From 12" left then 6" then 3" then all the way to 0".
Now due to an angular velocity of only 12" [hence the 12" loop] during the
caster's input and a a surplus of energy that will no doubt not only straighten
the leader but "more". Now it's this "more" that I'm very interested in
discussing. How do we get a hooking layout with a 3 or 4 foot dogleg? How
does a 12" overpowered loop swing completely into 36" to 48" layout in the
opposite direction?
We know that it must be technically
defined as a cast/aerial/mend but let's define it in more detail. What put
the sharp radius of the hook there?
Let's stay focused on this one.
Jeff Barefoot
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Before I put in my 2 cents worth, let's see of any of you want to scratch
your heads and come up with an explanation.
Gordy
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Question on leaders, from Rick Whorwood:-
Hi Gordy
Got it !!
I've still been trying to learn more about leader
construction. I am stuck on a couple of things, mainly why certain material are
placed at certain points in some leaders (soft material verses hard material).
Once I get this all straight, I would like to do and article for my
site.
The Belgian Cast article is on my site, I waited after the
FFF posted it.
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Answer from Bob Luttgen:
Glad to help if I can Rick. I do warn you that I have been accused of
committing "Forum Fraud" in the past, which is defined as: "passing oneself off
as an expert when he is not". Actually it is not fraud, but plagiarism as
I simply regurgitate everything that my guide, Capt. Simon Becker, tells
me.
I might add that everytime I think there is a firm rule on building
leaders, Simon comes up with something different. About the only thing
that stays constant in his leaders is the butt section, which he describes as
nothing more than an extension of the flyline. When choosing a butt he
looks for low memory (Orvis Mirage, Triple Fish), and a flex identical to the
flyline so you don't create a hinge. He does it by holding a couple of
feet of butt next to the flyline and bends it around until he finds something
that matches.
An all Flourocarbon leader will pull down his floating crab fly too
much, so he will use Triple Fish or Orvis Hy-Flote for a butt and mid in that
leader, with a long flouro tippet. Everything else he builds with all
flouro.
He is also big into using as few sections as possible. His leaders
will only have three or four sections at the most.
I am leaving Miami early tomorrow and will be traveling for a week.
If I am slow to respond, it will be because I am having to borrow computers
along the way.
Bob Luttgen
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Comment: We need to have our Group understand that you re talking
about salt water leaders such as those used for permit fishing. ("Simon"
in Bob's note is a great Key West fishing guide named Simon Becker....known for
his expertise in permit fishing.) I use the same method to match the butt
section to the fly line. .............. Gordy
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Here is my generic answer to leader construction :
Rick....
As I look at
it, the common denominator for most (though not all) fishing leaders is to have
smooth transfer of energy from the fly line to the fly for an accurate turnover
and presentation.
That can be
accomplished with either hard (stiff) material or soft (pliable) material, be it
nylon monofilament or fluorocarbon.
I like to
start with a butt section which does not differ greatly from the stiffness of
the distal end of the fly line itself. That means using hard material of
lower diameter or soft material of greater diameter. THE ISSUE IS
PLIABILITY, NOT HARDNESS/SOFTNESS OR DIAMETER when it comes to turnover of the
leader loop for a good cast.
Diameter
might become an issue when softer landings are needed or when using a needle
knot to the end of the fly line. (The soft stuff with large diameter won't
thread into the core of the fly line.)
The tapered
section must have graduations in stiffness from one segment to another which are
not so disparate as to prevent this smooth turnover down the leader to the
tippet. This smoothness in energy transfer is usually easier to achieve
when segments of this part of the leader are of the same material. Lefty
Kreh has studied this extensively and has gone so far as to say that one should
even use segments of the same brand of material.
The tippet I
like to think of as, "Quarry dependent".....depends on the fish. Spooky
fish require lighter tippets and longer ones. Toothy critters usually need
you to add a, "bite tippet" or, "shock tippet". The material chosen for
the latter is usually abrasion resistant. Here, energy transfer is of no
consequence.
Other
considerations include the sinkability of the leader and / or its
visibility. Fluorocarbon sinks faster than nylon monofilament and is a lot
less visible in water.
One must be
careful when mixing materials. Many knots between nylon mono and
fluorocarbon fail under stress. For this reason, I prefer to use a
loop-to-loop connection when marrying a fluorocarbon tippet section to the
tapered section when the tapered section is of nylon
monofilament.
There are
times when a smooth transfer of energy is not important, such as when casting to
billfish.
Then, there
are times when we don't want smooth transfer of energy, such as when fishing for
black bass with heavy cover. Here, a stiff, short leader with little taper
will yield little dissipation of energy until the final turnover resulting in an
explosive turnover to have the bass bug slap the water hard. (Wakes up a
big lazy bass way back under the lily pads.)
As you know,
there are also times when we want the opposite effect. Neither smooth
transfer of energy or lack of energy dissipation at the end. An example is
the so-called, Harvey dry fly leader. With this one, we want a long leader
of many graduated segments designed so that the energy is dissipated early
enough that the distal end of the leader floats gently down to the water in
curves .... for a long drift free of water drag.
Each leader
must be designed for the task at hand, the fishing conditions, and the
fish.
Gordy
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