Walter & Group........
From Nial Logan (Australia)
Gordy,
Thought I’d share this technique (probably nothing new or unique) which I find to be very helpful when teaching the stop and loop formation.
The props - consist of 80 -90 feet of coloured tape or rope and two closed cell foam “noodles” (closed cell foam cylinders about 3 inches in diameter) about 4 foot long with a spike fitted to one end. These are fairly forgiving so will not cause damage to the rod if hit.
The setup – lay the tape or rope out in a straight line (a line on a sports field can also be used as an alternative). Push the spikes on the noodles into the ground about three feet apart on the tape line.
The procedure – Student stands between the noodles but about two thirds of a rod length back from them. Make sidearm casts stopping as close to the noodle posts as possible without hitting them and have the fly line unroll parallel to the tape/rope line.
Variations - The posts can be placed further apart or closer together to show effects of narrow and wide casting arcs as well as teaching tip casts and deeper loading casts.
The foam cylinders are also usefull to hold behind a student who is having problems with either the stop on the backcast or is doming and throwing the line into the ground.
Regards
Nial Logan
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Nial .....
Good addition to our bag of teaching tricks !
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Historical info from Guy Manning:
Gordy,
A couple years ago I picked up a 1989 publication by Press
Powell, son of Walton Powell and grandson of E. C. Powell (autographed by Press
and Walton) for 4 dollars in a used book store: Essays on Fishing by E. C.
Powell. It is a reprint of 3 articles written by E. C. Powell from 1910, 1919
and 1937.
One of the 1937 articles, “The Mechanics of Fly Casting and
Subjects Closely Related”, mentions the “single pull” and the “double pull”. The
single pull is done on the back cast and does not return line until the line is
turning over on the following forward cast. The double pull describes returning
line on both the forward and back cast.
Three photos on the first page of the article shows “Buddy
Powell, Distance Tournament Casting 1930”, doing a haul.
Guy Manning
Now for some spice from Guy :
The
word haul by definition : To pull or draw with force; to drag
Haul
= pull
Double
haul = to pull 2 times
The
up motion is not a pulling motion so it can’t be a haul.
I
find it curious that Joan Wulff would describe it as she does since she
got started, as did Mel Krieger, in tournament casting. I know she attended the
1945 NAACC Nationals as there is a photo of her in “Tournament Fly and Bait
Casting”, by Earl Osten, on the page facing page 37. Interestingly there is also
a picture of Marvin Hedge at the same tournament on the page facing page 85.
This photo has Hedge at the end of a back cast holding the line in his line hand
in good position to haul forward. I find it hard to believe Joan wasn’t exposed
to the technique as far back as that.
So
it seems that maybe over the intervening years maybe Joan just got it wrong. I
don’t know anyone on this coast (or in the ACA) who defines it as Joan does.
With
all due respect to Al, this is hardly “new age”. The term has been part of
tournament and thus casting culture for longer than either he or I have been in
the sport.
Sometimes
we think that all of the authors out there developed these techniques in a
vacuum when they didn’t. Everyone of them learned over a long period of time
(just as we are) and were influenced by many others (just as we are).
Guy
Manning
FFF
Master Certified Casting Instructor
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From Lou Bruno :
Greetings…..
I find this
discussion very interesting; this is why I joined the group. First, as an
instructor I was aware of the confusion in defining what exactly a Single Haul
and Double Haul is; although, I know there purpose. I would side with Joan. But,
then in my reading and preparation I became aware that there were multiple
definitions. So, what do we teach and is there any real harm in teaching the
multiple definitions? I would think so; because they aren’t, is causing all of
us to discuss the matter. I want to say standardizing our terms and definitions
is a move in the right direction and isn’t dependent on whose book you are
reading.
Lou
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Lou... Good thoughts. I agree. This is why we've been working so hard on our FFF CBOG Glossary Committee. Eventually we'll have our glossary of all these terms published complete with sufficient commentary to afford explanation of the reasoning behind each definition. We've been at it for 3 1/2 years, so far. Gordy
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From Michael Jones:-
Gordy~
This is exactly what I anticipated from the thread I sent you
regarding the single vs. double haul definition. I really appreciate
you taking the opportunity to cast this idea around; it sounds like we
all have some similar, yet slightly differing takes on what is what,
and what we like as our own definitions...this is good!
Now: Aside from anyone elses definition, do you consider a 'haul' a
pull and return, or just a pull? Curious what your personal
definition is.
Michael Jones
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Michael .... The very word, "HAUL" means, "PULL", as I see it. To me, a pull with the line hand is a haul whether or not line is given back. Having said that, I respect those who do see the giving back of line as a defining action even though the giving back of line is a reverse movement. Gordy
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From Robert Shigley :