Loading/translation/rotation

Walter & Group.........

From Jim Laing:

Gordy-

 

I'm agreeing with most of this.  However, sometimes differing styles for distance casting force us to think out of the box.  I've been looking at loading very deep early in the stroke with minimal rotation as opposed to loading with rod butt perpendicular to the path of hand travel.  I'm beginning to think that the most efficient pullers have the strength and speed to load deep with minimal rotation.  Having said that, it appears the balance of rotation is simply unloading and that the powersnap/ delayed rotation and haul simply adds to lengthening the stroke by delaying turnover. 

I would like to hear your thoughts.

 

Jim

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Jim ....

 

I don't agree.

 

The caster cannot yield much bend in the rod, ie., loading with translation alone. Of course, the strong , "pullers" will yield more than the average casters, but it still is not much.

 

Try it.  Take your outfit out and try to bend the rod against the wt. of the line using ABSOLUTELY NO ROTATION AT ALL. (rod butt section stays at exactly the same angle as you do it)

 

Now take the same outfit and use pure rotation and try to bend the rod. ...... Big difference.

 

No matter how you cut it, it is rotation which provides most of the loading AND by far the greatest amount of tip travel and acceleration.

 

Bruce Richards has demonstrated this clearly.

 

Gordy

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From Al Crise:

Howdy Michael,& Dave

It was restated that the rod tip is pointed at the loop as it is moving backward. This alone will start the rod moving backward at the same rate as the loop is moving. It will also, to answer your question, position the rod tip to be on the 180 degree line from back loop to forward target/loop. This reduces the tracking problems so often seen in beginners of long distance casting. Now if the loop is set high then the rod tip stays high. If the loop is set low or closer to the ground the tip has to drop. If the student is watching this happen the correction is on the next cast. Floyd Franke will tell you that if you wait just a second the loop falling will make your trajectory; low back to higher front for the longer distance cast.

  This Following of the loop also set the Arc of the cast. If the loop is traveling back a short ways the tip is also set to just use a little flex/ load. Small amount of rotation. Conversely if the cast is long the tip travels back more, giving a deeper load in the rod. Still maintaining a SLP of the rod's tip. This is a training aid that will help your student understand the loading Arc and it's importance to the over all cast. It by it's self will not cure all problems just a trick to add to your bag of casting tricks (BoCT)

 

ol Al

 

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From Walter Simberski:

Gordy - a couple of comments

As long as the rod is loaded the speed of the rod tip will be increasing. Maximum tip speed will be at RSP. The fact that this is the point where the line speed exceeds the tip speed confirms this.

The amount of translation is partly dictated by the caster's timing. The amount of rotation is determined by length of cast vs stiffness of the rod in order to control tip path. Rotation and translation in the cast are somewhat independent.

my 2 cents...

Walter

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Walter...     I agree.     Gordy

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From Michael Jones:

Gordy:

Regarding Project Healing Waters, Mac Lord and myself have both taught

the Togus chapter of PHW in Maine, and I have guided the Walter Reed

group twice on their excursions.

What I notice almost immediately in working with a person with a

disability is how THEY overcome the challenge without any prodding or

hands-on assistance, and that is where the real healing and

rehabilitation takes place. I notice that with volunteers, they want

to help, help, help, and teach, teach, teach, when just a little more

patience and a good dose of "we are all the same, but a little

different' goes a huge distance.

I keep to my lesson plan, and only offer direct assistance when

frustration has clearly overcome progress.

On a seperate note: It is amazing how good 'the blind' can cast!

MJ