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- Subject: [SPAM] Acceleration # 4
- Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:17:45 -0400
Walter & Group...
Gordie;
Thanks
for that input.
I just
went outside - here in Mexico - and made two different "styles of casts".
One
was where I moved my hand/reel throughout the stroke.
Then I left my hand stationary and only rotated my wrist
open/closed.- like winding up a spring.
Both "styles cast the line".
Darn,
more fodder;
Tom
White
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Tom....
Yes.
1.) Now
try to cast with no angular (rotational) change at all....just linear motion in
the direction of the target.
2.) Compare that
with the distance you can achieve as you did it using rotation
alone.
3.)
THEN compare with the distance made using both.
You will
find:
1.) Using linear
motion (casting stroke with no rotation/angular change) you really can't
get much distance.
2.) With
rotation (angular change) alone, you'll get better distance, but you won't be
satisfied with this.
3.) With
BOTH rotation and linear motion, you have employed a
casting stroke and a casting arc. This will give you the best
distance.
The word, "linear"
has more than one meaning. In the case of acceleration, it can be used to
mean, "in a straight line direction". It can also mean a straight
line graph of the rate of acceleration which remains a constant, ie. (the rate
does not change.)
Confusion over
the role of acceleration and the descriptions of it is often based upon lack of
understanding as to what is being accelerated. As Shane
pointed out, the accelerated movement of the HAND should
be smooth and constant.(ie., "linear") The acceleration of the
ROD TIP is a very different matter. Its
acceleration, while not erratic, is progressive due to the flexibility of the
fly rod. Its acceleration is at a much slower rate as the cast starts and
becomes much greater as the tip approaches RSP. This, I see, as a
progressively changing rate of acceleration. I used the term, "accelerated
acceleration" for that......a term to which some folks object. It is,
"linear" only in that it may well be in a straight line direction.....but NOT,
"linear" in the sense that it is constant or unchanging
acceleration.
This is very will
explained, I think, in Shane's 3rd paragraph, starting with a description of
Einsteins intuitive ("Gedanken") experiment. This should be read by ALL as
it gets to the guts of the matter. (See, below)
Gordy
Here is a Gedanken Experiment (as Einstein called
thought-based scenarios) If the rod did not flex at all
(a broomstick) the rod tip would accelerate (angular) at the same rate
as the rod butt. (Ignore translational movement of the rod butt.)
But we know the rod is a flexible lever and bends as the rod is
accelerated (we must accelerate to bend the rod). When the rod bends from linear
acceleration of the rod butt, the rod tip necessarily lags behind a straight rod
position due to inertia. If we accelerate continually and smoothly, it will
continue to lag more, deepening the bend, until the rod butt is rapidly
decelerated (at the stop). Therefore the rod tip starts moving at a slower
speed and is accelerating slower than the rod butt. Although accelerating,
it continues to travel slower than the rod butt and accelerates slightly
slower until it the rod butt stops. At this point the rod
unflexes continuing to accelerate (quite rapidly at the end) to the RSP. The
acceleration is over the same arc length (ignoring counterflex), but over a
slightly longer period of time (~0.1 s). Therefore, I think the rod tip is
starting out a slower rate of acceleration early and ending at a higher
rate of acceleration and moving very rapidly (higher velocity) at the end
(ultimately we are after line speed, right.) According to Bruce and Noel's
results, the loading of the rod approximately doubles the velocity over a
straight non-flexing stick. I think this is an increasing rate (non-linear)
of acceleration (straight line) of the rod tip, despite the linear rotational
acceleration of the hand. But it may still look very smooth.
Does this
make sense? I think it is insightful, but not as certain as quantitative data.
I'm not 100% sure, so there may be a flaw. Does this contradict Troy's findings.
I think this is an area where we really need some experimental results to
confirm whether the rod tip is accelerating linearly or
non-linearly. Are there other experimental data on this? I haven't read all
the papers Bruce and Noel Perkins have written.
Shane