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    Walter & Group :

    This is a really instructive message from Bruce Richards.  He has taken Server's detailed message and helps interpret it for us by making comments in Shane's text delimited by ***** marking and as I've highlighted in red.

    I've learned a great deal from this, and I hope you do, too.

    Gordy

     

    Hi Shane, Gordy and all,

    I've just been reading the technical musings without remarking because it

    would take so long to remark. Shane, virtually every detail you mention in

    your paradigms of rod structural dynamics is bipolar (opposite of real

    behavior). Don't be in despair because I suspect you have no real

    expertise in Structural Dynamics. I'll just mention one or two things to

    get you and anyone else in the right direction. Acceleration is easy when

    the speed is low and takes great effort and energy as the center of mass of

    object is put into motion.

    ****He's just saying that it is easier to accelerate something that is

    moving slowly than something that is already moving fast.

    The idea of increasing acceleration at will is simply unrealistic and

    would even be hard for a machine to produce let along a human.

    *****Most casters, even inexperienced casters throwing very hard,

    accelerate the rod in a fairly linear fashion, except for moving too slowly

    at first. What Server is saying is that our period of acceleration is short

    and to attempt to accelerate at an increasing rate would be very difficult.

    Velocity increases, yes, but the rate of acceleration is quite steady. Many

    casters think that the "right" acceleration is slow at first, fast at the

    end, the classic "speed up and stop". In reality, good acceleration is

    marked by a constant rate, that is what allows a straight tip path.

    It is better to think in terms of the torques which can be applied to the

    rod -- a number of things effect the torque which can be applied to a rod

    and it isn't long into the casting process when the torque can no longer be

    increased and the rod begins unloading. The acceleration of the tip at RSP

    is zero --i.e., tip speed at this instant is not changing while velocity

    direction is changing so a minor acceleration is connected with direction

    change.

    *****Again, many might read this confusing speed with acceleration. Tip

    speed is max at RSP, but acceleration is zero.

    The acceleration of the tip is greatest at maximum rod deflection which

    occurs long, long before rod straightening.

    *****True, the rod tip is accelerating at its fastest when the rod is bent

    most. The tip continues to gain speed all the way to RSP, but at a lesser

    rate than at max deflection (max rod bend). This must be the case, we know

    that tip acceleration is zero at RSP, and it can't go from max accel. to

    zero in an instant.

    As the rod straightens the acceleration must decrease -- this occurs

    monotonically. That one is very easy to understand and anyone with

    competency in basic college physics can understand this statement. It is

    no different from the behavior of a simple oscillator -- this behavior

    always demonstrates accelerations proportional to spring deflection which

    are comparable to the rod deflection. One last note is that from high

    speed infrared photography images (and understanding rod structural

    dynamics) about (my estimate) 25% of rod unloading occurs after the flyline

    is flying and the loop begins forming. RSP is symbolic of the end of rod

    unloading but the rod has stopped accelerating the bulk of the line earlier

    (except for a little line near the tip which it is in fact trying to throw

    into the ground and this accounts for the details of loop formation).

    ****We know that rod unloading continues beyond RSP, we see that in the

    counterflex. Tip direction during counterflex is downward and this does

    largely determine where the loop bottom leg will be.

    I hope this helps make some sense of Server's engineer speak!

    Bruce