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    Walter & Group:

    From me to Bruce Richards.  Also, you may wish to check out prior messages between Laurence and me, by scribing further, below.

    Gordy

     

    Bruce....

    We've had some discussions as to the actual path taken by the hand during

    standard straight line overhead casting.

    Some continue to argue that the hand must travel in an absolutely straight

    line path in all planes.

    Your comments ?

    Gordy

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    Bruce's answer:

    Gordy,

    While I agree that it is probably easiest to cast well with a straight hand

    path, it certainly isn't necessary and I know quite a few top casters who's

    path isn't straight. It is quite common for open stance distance casters to

    cast with a concave hand path, although I doubt most do it in purpose. The

    only real important thing for good straight line casting is that the tip

    path be as straight as possible, and that can certainly be accomplished

    with a hand path that is not straight. In the vertical plane rod bend can

    be adjusted to compensate for a non-straight hand path. In the horizontal

    plane I think it is much more important for the hand path to be straight

    though as there is no similar, easy compensation method.....

    Bruce

    Scientific Anglers/3M

    4100 James Savage Rd.

    Midland, MI 48642 USA

    Tel: 989-496-1113

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    Gordy: Thanks, I just ordered Borger’s book from Amazon. I think the difficulty I have is this “ straight” concept. The straight path of the rod to and from the target is relatively easy. Where the hand and tip of the rod are during the casting stroke is confusing. I don’t see how the hand can be “level” at the same time the rod tip is. One or the other has to off the line that I will refer to as “level” in a hypothetical cast where it is the intention to have the line travel level with the ground. For example, in a “laid back” cast (my term for lack of knowledge of a better one) at the end of the back cast results in the rod tip far below the level it was at the apex of the casting stroke although the hand has remained at a relatively constant level from the ground throughout the stroke. Another confusing description from Lefty is that the line travels in the direction the rod tip stops. Jaworowski says the line goes in the direction the rod tip is “moving”(???). I can’t find what Joan Wulff says except to make a “power stroke” approximately beginning 90 degrees to the target, and that the power stroke should be no more than 45 degrees. If the line travels in the direction the rod tip is moving at the end of the cast, that can be entirely different from the direction the tip stops.  If I am making a long cast with a flexible rod, the bend and subsequent recoil will be significant. After the recoil, the rod recovers (with oscillations). Is the end of the recoil where the rod stopped or the recovery position, or neither? Or do they just have different opinions? I don’t have the Borger book yet, but does your answer below mean that the rod tip/hand “rules” are different (assuming the length of casts are the same) if a vertical cast vs. a horizontal cast is made? It probably is pretty late after doing it for thirty five years to attempt an understanding of  what you have been (or should be) doing, nevertheless….

    Thanks

    Laurence

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