Re: Gordie's email list?

Hi, Walter....

Note my answers in bold type inserted in your text:

Gordy

From: WALTER/SUE SIMBIRSKI <simbirsw@xxxxxxx>
To: Gordon Hill <hillshead@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Gordie's email list?
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:45:15 -0600
Gordy! Thanks for getting me on your list. I'll see if I can answer your test in 15 minutes or less
(not to be a smart ass but because I'm taking a break at work) :)

1. As soon as force is no longer applied to the fly line to counteract gravity the
line begins to fall.

GRAVITY IS ALWAYS AT WORK. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE STOP, SOME DEGREE OF FALLING STARTS. IT FALLS DRAMATICALLY FASTER WHEN FORWARD MOTION OF THE LINE/LEADER CEASES AT THE POINT WHERE THE LOOP HAS FULLY UNROLLED.

2. To supply energy for the cast.

YES....ALTHOUGH SOME OF THAT ENERGY CAN COME FROM A HAUL MADE BY THE OPPOSITE HAND. THE PRIMARY DUTY OF THE ROD HAND IS THE EXECUTION OF THE MECHANICS OF THE CAST.

3. - also applies energy when hauling
- keeps line from getting tangled
- aids in turning over the fly (triple haul)
- remove slack from the casting system during the cast
- strip in line when fish runs toward you
- I also use it to crank the reel (but I'm not one of those strange people that like to
cast and crank with the same hand)

GOOD ANSWER. INCLUDES HAULS, CONTROL OF SLACK, RETRIEVING LINE, AND MAINTAINANCE OF TENSION (BY MINIMIZING SLACK). MIGHT ADD THE STRIP-STRIKING OF FISH, TOO.

4. I would tell a student that the loop begins to form at the soon as the stop is made.
I tell myself that the loop begins to form as soon as I begin my casting stroke.

NO. THE LOOP DOESN'T BEGIN TO FORM UNTIL THE LINE BEGINS TO OVERTAKE THE ROD TIP IN THE DIRECTION OF THE CAST. THAT OCCURS EXACTLY AT THE RSP. (ROD STRAIGHT POSITION) WHICH AS AFTER THE POINT THAT THE HAND AND ROD BUTT SECTION STOP. INTERESTINGLY, IT IS DURING THIS BRIEF TIME THAT THE ROD TIP IS MOVING FASTEST.

WHEN YOU FIRST BEGIN YOUR STROKE, YOU ARE PROVIDING AT LEAST ONE INGREDIENT NEEDED TO FORM A LOOP, AND THAT IS LINE ACCELERATION.....BUT YOU DO NEED THE RSP AFTER YOUR STOP OR NO LOOP (OR A POOR SEMBLENCE OF SAME AT BEST) WILL FORM.

5. a - reduce friction when shooting line
b - make sure the rod bends uniformly so it doesn't break

IF WE HAD MORE GUIDES.....SAY ABOUT 40 OF THEM ON A ROD, WE'D HAVE MORE FRICTION, NOT LESS. WHEN CASTING, THE GUIDES PROVIDE CONTROL OF THE LINE SO IT DOESN'T SLAP THE ROD AND WRAP AROUND IT. TO THE EXTENT THAT IT DOES THIS, HOWEVER, THEY DO MINIMIZE THE FRICTION YIELDED BY THAT SCENARIO......SO YOU ARE NOT WRONG.

YOUR b.) ANSWER IS CORRECT. ALL OF THE FRICTION OCCURS AT THE ROD TIP IN FIGHTING A FISH AND THIS PLACES TREMENDOUS LOADS ON THE TIP SECTION . WHEN I TRIED THIS, IT ACTUALLY PULLED THE GLUED TIP RIGHT OFF ON ONE OCCASION.

6. To quote an advertisement for the Marrayat Plus "dual mode" fly reel.
The meaning of "dual mode" is that there are two main functions:
1) Anti-reverse: The handle doesn't turn when line goes out. (Even when
cranking the handle, the line can continue to go out!)
2) Direct Drive: While cranking, the handle and spool are fixed and rotate
together, achieving a high retrieval force, just like any other traditional
fly reel.
Switching from Anti-reverse to Direct Drive can be done any time, simply
by squeezing the two pads that are inside the handle.

CORRECT, WITH THAT MODEL. WITH OTHER DUAL MODE REELS, THE REEL IS AN ANTI REVERSE DEVICE UNTIL THE ANGLER STARTS TO GRASP THE HANDLE AND TURN. THEN IT BECOMES A DIRECT DRIVE REEL.

7. An S-shaped braided loop held together by a single strand of pole elastic under tension
attached to the end of a fly line to act as a strike indicator. Used in Czech nymphing.

YES. ALSO USED BY SOME TO REDUCE LEADER SHOCK WHEN USING 8x TIPPETS.

8. Also called dapping. Used in Loch and river fishing. Two rods are tied together with
a length of line. The fly is suspended from this line using a leader. The fly is not
cast but is dapped on the surface of the water to attract the fish.

YES. THE TERM IS ALSO APPLIED TO THE USE OF A WIND RESISTANT LEADER SECTION LIKE YARN TO "KITE" THE FLY OUT ON THE WATER.

9. The distance wind blows over open water. The longer the fetch the more powerful the
waves.

GOOD ANSWER ! MOST DID NOT GET THIS ONE RIGHT.

10. Joining two lengths of monofilament line such as when building a leader.

YES.

 YOU DID VERY WELL, WALTER !

 GORDY

From: Gordon Hill <hillshead@xxxxxxx>
To: simbirsw@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Gordie's email list?
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:41:58 -0400

Walter....

Here's a list of questions I sent out to our Group. Several did well.....only one got 100 percent. Give it a try.....ok to consult your books.

1.) You have just made a forward cast to a STOP. When does the line/loop begin to fall ?

2.) What is the primary duty of the rod hand ?

3.) Name 5 duties of the line hand.

4.) Your student asks you when the loop actually begins to form in relation to his casting stroke. What do you tell him ?

5.) What is the main function of the guides on a fly rod ?

 a.) When casting ?

 b.) When fighting a fish ?

(#5 can be a brain twister and a half. Dennis Grant and I discussed this at the conclave, but I didn't gain a clear idea about it until I omitted stringing up through the guides and ran the line through the tip top alone.)

6.) What is a DUAL MODE FLY REEL ?

7.) What is BUNGEE BUTT ?

8.) What is meant by BLOW LINE FISHING ?

9.) What is "FETCH" .

10.) Give one good use for a double nail knot.

Take the plunge and give it a stab......it's fun. Go ahead and use your books for any answer.

 Gordy

From: WALTER/SUE SIMBIRSKI <simbirsw@xxxxxxx>
To: hillshead@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Gordie's email list?
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:53:46 -0600
Gordy - you there?

Walter

----- Original Message -----
From: dennisg@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, August 22, 2005 11:47 am
Subject: Re: Gordie's email list?

> Hi Walter
>
> Gordy had a problem with you first email here is gordys address.
> We'll try again
> hillshead@xxxxxxx
> Dennis
>
>
> Dennis - did you get my email about getting on Gordie's email
> list? Don't want to be
> pushy - I want
> to see if he can help me get a set of orthopedic waders. :-)
> Cheers
> Walter
> PS - I've been working on the back cast. I'm getting much
> better with short casts. Just
> got to work
> on getting control when I have more line in the air. Thanks to you
> and Gordie for your
> help!
>
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