Hi, Walter....
Waves were small, because the water was situated as a deep tongue of
currents between shallow sand bars......so that wasn't the problem.
Roll casting with that heavy Clouser didn't even get close to the distance
needed.
Ordinarily, we wouldn't use tight loops with a heavy weighted
fly.....conventional wisdom and teaching would dictate that the loops should be
opened up. HOWEVER, this (yours) IS one of the correct answers for
this particular condition. We learned from Mark Sedotti that one CAN cast
a heavily weighted fly with a very tight loop.
This takes incredibly sharp timing. The trick is to avoid starting
the next stroke until the loop literally straightens completely....not a split
second too soon, or too late.
Joe Humphries sometimes uses this technique for his back cast prior to his
distance tuck cast. He waits until he actually feels the tug before coming
forward with his forward stroke.
A water haul can help load the rod better and sooner
......but wasn't necessary most of the time.
We found that our BEST solution was to make an elliptical (Belgian)
cast. The back cast is made low, climbing, with the continuous tension
wide loop assisted by the wind. The forward cast, is then made using a
more vertical rod plane using a straight line path of the rod tip, unloading
just below the oncoming line with a thrust cast (Stopping as you "run out of
elbow".) The turnover is helped by using a very fast tapered leader, and a
last second, "check haul". You get that tight loop with the thrust made
with the rod tip aimed at your intended target, while elevating the casting
arm.
My brother, Dave, and I were using that technique again today......howling
wind and driven rain didn't help.....however we landed 22 striped bass before we
elected to quit as the misery factor increased.
Gordy
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:44
AM
Subject: Re: Mini-quiz
Hey Gordy!
I'm assuming that with a 12 MPH wind blowing
into your face that the waves are fairly large (large enough to make roll
casting, especially with sinking line and a weighted streamer, out of the
question). For the forward cast that leaves a basic (overhead) cast with
double haul and tight loops. The trajectory should be aimed such that the cast
ends just above the water or as the line contacts the water. This would keep
the line/streamer from being blown back at you between the end of the cast and
the time it actually contacts the water. The back cast should be aimed high
and with a wider loop to take advantage of the wind to straighten the line and
preload the rod.
With a 12 mph wind in your face you won't be able to
shoot much line on the forward cast so that means you would need to hold most
of the line in the air. This is going to be very difficult to do, especially
on the forward part of the cast. The trick will be to shoot line on the last
back cast before your final forward cast in order to get most of the line you
need in the air.
The conditions would be a good candidate for triple
shooting.
Good luck with your fishing.
Walter
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Original Message -----
From: Gordon Hill <hillshead@xxxxxxx>
Date: Monday,
October 10, 2005 9:34 am
Subject: Mini-quiz
>
> Hi,
Group....
>
> I'm at Cutchogue on Long Island, fishing for
stripers......and
> using a
> borrowed computer.
>
> This morning, I was standing on a sandbar in Peconic Bay in the
> pouring rain
> and a 12 MPH wind blowing in my
face. I was using a 9 w fast rod
> and a
> WF9I line
with a 6' fast tapered leader. My fly was a 1/0 Clouser
> with
1/8
> Oz. lead eyes.
>
> QUESTION: WHAT CASTS CAN I
USE TO GET MY FLY OUT INTO THE WIND TO
> FISH
> FEEDING ABOUT 65
- 75 FEET OUT THERE ?
>
>
>
> Gordy
>
>
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