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Walter & Group......
[GH] From Gary Davison... As most of you know, he and Jim Bass have taken over the CCI Study Group after Ol Al Crise's demise. I work "behind the scenes" along with Paul Arden to help them with this worthy endeavor :
Great Gordy,
Look forward to that response. I will be at Jim's tomorrow he and I will review together. Looking forward to working with Jim this weekend.
Your quiz came at a great time as you probably noticed Jim and I will be hosting a clinic this weekend at Jim's place in Keller Texas. This will help us greatly in meeting with the CCI's on Sunday morning when we go through the test with the candidates.
I love this portion of the clinic. Some of those that attend are not CCI candidates but those that want to understand the casting more deeply and see the true meaning behind the process. Mr. Rick Brown will be at the clinic also look forward to seeing him there.
We really appreciate all your help in getting us where we need to be with regards to our teachings. Jim has the toughest part being as he has to determine what to send out. Can be challenging as you well know.
I appreciate what Jim has done to keep Al's great work alive and well! I am sure Al would too! I help when I can and love contributing to the group.
Gary
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[GH] More to learn from our new answers:
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[GH] Question from Mike Heritage :
Hi Gordy, Could you clarify something for me please,
''and the fly and leader must land in front of the fly line.''
It implies to me that they want to see a straight(ish) leader with the mends primarily in the flyline. Am I right?
Mike
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[GH] Mike,
These are the kinds of questions we need to help make things clear !
My take is that examiners will be looking for many curls in the leader for an unrestricted drift of a dry fly ..... but the fly is at least a short distance ahead of the rest of the leader, and the leader coils should not be behind any part of the fly line.
How strict will examiners be on ??? ....Can a wee bit of leader be curled behind the tip of the fly line ???...... I'd hope most of them would consider the casting conditions in terms of weather, wind, etc. and not be totally hard nosed on the exact layout.
Gordy
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[GH] Answers from Bob Stouffer. I made a comment below his answer to 7.):
Bob & Group...
[GH] Your student is attempting a slack LEADER presentation such that there is little of any slack in the fly line, but lots of slack in the leader. Try as he does, he simply cannot do it without lots of slack loops and curls in the fly line as well as the leader.
QUESTIONS:
1. What method(s) do you think he's using? High Trajectory Pile Cast
2. What method would you recommend? Vince Marinaro's Pile Cast
[GH] One of the reasons I made reference to Vincent Marinaro's book is that his description of this cast is far from a mechanical one. It is handled in FISHING terms; makes you feel that you are out on the stream with him. A beautiful read !!!
3. Briefly tell us how you would teach this presentation. Wider arc, softer touch to get the tip of the fly-line to "stand-up" at the end of the cast. Frustratingly difficult in a breeze.
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More questions on slack line presentations :
1. What is the primary purpose of making slack line presentations? To control "drag".
2. You are fishing a small trout stream. You see a rise about 30' directly downstream from you at the tail out of a small pool. How would you present your dry fly to this trout? High Trajectory Pile Cast or Wiggle Cast.
3. Is there another method you would consider ? Underpowered Curve Cast with the fly line drifting off to the side of the rise.
4. What is the main difference between a slack line MEND and a slack line CAST? Mended presentation is made after the stop of the rod on the presentation cast. Slack line cast is made during the casting stroke (preceding the stop)
5. How would you classify a so-called PILE CAST (AKA) PUDDLE CAST, DUMP CAST, TOWER CAST, STACK CAST) ? * ** ***
a. Slack line cast. b. Slack line mend. c. Slack line cast/mend. All three are relevant: a. is a touch cast where the caster stops a wide-loop cast so that the line straightens, but the leader piles. Generally for cross-stream presentation where you are laying the line on in-stream vegetation. b. Normal cast with a pull-down on the tip after the stop This gives you a few bights . c. High trajectory cast with a reach-down mend. You can put lots of little curves in the line with this method.
6. Briefly describe at least three methods of making slack line mends.
Reach up after stop (Parachute). Reach right after stop. Reach Left after stop. Reach down (Pile).
Reach -up/reach-down (Hump or Bucket). Reach-out/reach-back (Current Mirror)
Circle the tip after stop (i.e. Corkscrew). Wiggle after stop ( Wiggle )
Pull back (Check)
7. Briefly describe at least 3 methods of making slack line casts (with no mend(s)).
a. High Trajectory Pile Cast: Aim the presentation cast high (very high) and follow the rod-tip down to the water with the line. As the line loses impetus, it pulls itself down onto the water in a series of bights.
b. Wiggle Cast where the wiggles are made by moving the rod-tip side to side during the casting stroke.
c. Up-hook. Rising casting stroke (usually from side-armed stroke) with a "flip" of the rod-tip up to a stop. Fly rises at the end of the line travel and lands with slack in the leader.
[GH] The "UP-hook" is a slack line cast I use regularly in salt water while fishing for bonefish and permit ... even works with a weighted fly to make it land with less of a crash. Using Joan Wulff's terminology, it can be described as a side arm cast made with an "upward curving power-snap". It can also be described as an upward vertical curve cast. When trout fishing with a dry fly, this can result in the loop traveling out and then briefly in an upward direction as it unfurls. The energy of the cast is expended as the leader hovers briefly, then collapses downward with a dry fly landing softly; ready for a natural drift. Years ago, I was foolish enough to think I'd invented it because I'd not seen it done and didn't find it described in the books. I'm sure many anglers used it before I did, and didn't apply a name to it.
Gordy
8. You are a well seasoned CCI or Master and are mentoring a new CCI candidate to help her prepare to take the exam. You are using the new Fly Casting Instructor Performance form approved for use starting Jan. 1, 2012 and are coaching her with respect to Task 7 :-
Task 7.
Make two slack line presentations with the fly landing at approximately 25-30' (7.6-9.1m).
One presentation is to be made as a slack line cast with no aerial mend. The second presentation is to be the result of an aerial mend(s)
Expectations: The slack would achieve a drag free drift and the fly and leader must land in front of the fly line.
(____) Did not create slack that would result in a drag free drift.
(____) Did not create slack in two different ways.
(____) Fly did not land in front of the fly line and leader.
Comments: __________________________________
9. Which slack line CAST would you recommend she use for this task?
High Trajectory Pile Cast.
10. Why did you pick this one?
It is an important cast for the candidate to teach to their students for dry-fly fishing. Also, it shows that the candidate can alter her trajectory.
11. Which slack line MEND(S) would you recommend?
First: Reach-out/reach-back.
Second: Bucket or Hump mend.
12. Why did you pick this method?
First: good tool for teaching and learning about the stream's movement and its effects on the fly line and fly.
Second: This is an important cast for the candidate to teach a student how to help sink a nymph or streamer.
Gordy
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