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    Walter & Group...

    [GH] From Bob Stouffer on the "parachute cast":

    Dr. Gordy
    I understand a Parachute cast as a horizontally projected cast downstream with a high, slow, "reach-up" which places the fly back towards you by "Parachuting" gently on a straight leader and tippet.  The fisher then follows the fly in the current by matching the speed of the water and maintaining a relatively straight line.

    I realize that any attempt at manufacturing an unambiguous lexicon of presentation casts and mends is nearly impossible.  I will bet you that if you aligned twenty seasoned MCI's and asked them to do a series of ten different slack-line presentations, by name, that you would see an unexpected variety of completely different casts all responding to the same name.

    Thankfully, we do not do this with food.

    Bob Stouffer

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    [GH]  Bob,

    Seems that any cast which results in the fly rising, or not, then hovering prior to falling has been called a "parachute cast" by someone !  Many ways of doing this, as you know.

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    [GH]  Bob Hansell replies to my message in "Slack line presentations 7" :

    Thanks Gordy, much appreciated. 
     
    I never thought of the wedge type cast to create a slack line presentation and will go out after work today to give it a try. 
     
    We did have a debate around here about the strict definition of a mend.  The clarification of rod fade helps. 

     We were using the concept of a mend is a repositioning of the rod after the cast is made (after loop formation) with the focus on rod fade versus the “pull down” .  So naturally, we tried to get a slack line presentation using a pile cast while trying to keep the rod still after the cast in the high position (as best we could).  Most of the time the fly and leader fell behind the fly line except with a wind aide which at 25’ or more pulled out the slack. 

     It was fun because we were all determined that we could make this work somehow.  But it was never a repeatable performance. Also we tried to compare the rod pull down to the “pull back” on an over powered curve cast or the concept of opening up a loop by “controlling the bottom leg”.  Both were considered “mends” because of the manipulation of the rod after the loop was formed.  The rod fade was compared to the ‘follow through” of a normal vertical cast.  Mental gymnastics to be sure, but it could lead to a deeper understanding.  So, my key takeaway here is rod fade is not a mend because it is not a “purposeful manipulation” of the line after the cast. Do you agree?
     
    What I love about casting, fishing, golf and many of my individual pursuits is the constant learning opportunities encountered. The difference between those and my work is being right is not as critical!
     
    Thanks for pushing me to think more on this specific topic.
    Bob
     
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    [GH]  Bob,

    I agree.

    Let me know how you fared after you try these casts.

    One can make this as easy or as complicated as he wishes.....................

    The  description of a MEND which I favor is: " Manipulation and/or alteration of the position of the fly line after loop formation."

    I left mention of the rod out of it.

    This can be accomplished with no movement of the rod at all ..... as with a check haul or pull back of the line.

    With the Pile cast, I think it could go either way.  If the caster aggressively drops the rod in such a way as to pull the line down, then I suppose this could be considered a mend.  If he uses a "rod fade"  (Mac Brown's term) to lower the rod at the same speed as the already falling line or slower, then it wouldn't actually alter the line position, so I'd not consider it a mend; rather a followthrough.  Mac used the term, "negative force" in describing rod fade. *

    If the caster drops the rod tip, he is more likely to pull the line down because of the arc created.  He's less likely to do that if he slowly lowers the entire rod.

    If you actually do make a "reach down mend" as you drop the rod tip, then timing becomes an issue, as described by Jason Borger: " If you reach immediately after the forward cast is finished, then the entire line will be mended..... If you wait until most of the line has fallen to the water, then only a small portion near the rod tip wil vary in its course.......In essence, all you are doing is inserting a Pause Module between the cast and the mend....." **


    CASTING ANGLES, by Mac Brown, 1997, First Edition, p. 42, Text & Fig. 2.9.

    **  Jason Borger's NATURE OF FLY CASTING.... by Jason Borger, 2001, pp. 88-89.

    Gordy

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    [GH] From Gary Davison (Co-chair of the Ol Al CCI Study Group) speaks to those of us who mentor and/or otherwise help budding CCI Candidates :

    Gordy
     
    Great response to the questions!  CCI's & MCI's do need references from the BOG or Casting Committee regarding the standards to formulate the requirements on this task so we can convey this to our candidates.  
     
    Anything new will generate attention!
     
    Most of us realized that straight line presentation were not going to be accepted on this task!  Knowing that they exist and could be performed to produce the slack line cast and mends mentioned had to be brought up to clarify the task.  
     
    Most of us instructors understand that the majority of the testing will be performed on land not water. So based on the task verbiage, visual evidence of slack is needed by the examiner to provide a pass on this task. 
     
    As you say Gordy it will be subjective by the examiners.  I hope they all take this into account as you pointed out in your critique: Points which are open to interpretation by examiners! 
     
    Some may view casts based on water application, some may view the casts based on land layouts?  Who is to say?
     
    I would hope if the first attempt was not acceptable with regards to the task, the examiner would ask for another presentation to establish depth of knowledge and ability of the caster.  I can see where a number of cast may be requested by the examiner on the task to the candidate.
     
    I like the fact that mending is being applied to the new test being as this is a very important facet of teaching Fly Casting for the instructor. 
     
    We just want to prepare our candidates to address the task correctly, to make sure all aspects are covered. 
     
    If mentored correctly they (your candidates) should come to the test with a number of slack line presentation for both venues water and grass!
     
    Thanks Gordy for good direction and help on this task.
     
    Look forward to other comments when and if provided.
     
     
    Task 7.

    Make two slack line presentations with the fly landing at approximately 25-30' (7.6-9.1m).
    One presentation is to be made as a slack line cast with no aerial mend. The second presentation is to be the result of an aerial mend(s)

    Expectations: The slack would achieve a drag free drift and the fly and leader must land in front of the fly line.


    (____) Did not create slack that would result in a drag free drift.

    (____) Did not create slack in two different ways.

    (____) Fly did not land in front of the fly line and leader.

    Comments: __________________________________
     
    It is up to us to figure out what cast to use on land and water.
     
    It is up to us to figure out what mends to use on land and water.
     
    Who said this was going to be easy???? 
      
     
    All the best    
    Gary Davison

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