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Walter & Group...
>From Don Pendleton:
Gordy.
Great topic but let's narrow it down a bit. Student looks at me and says. " what should I be feeling?" A resistance, pressure exactly where and when and how much.
Don
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[GH] Don,
Yes. But not all at the same time. I like the idea of a stepwise approach along with visual, hearing, and other methods of teaching as the lessons progress.
At the beginning: I think its a good idea simply to have the student feel the resistance or weight of the line against the rod with many moves at different speeds and in different ways; i.e. circles, figure eights, etc.
Then: Enough resistance against the rod to keep the line aloft. (That, alone, provides an objective and starts to teach "how much" feel of resistance is needed to prevent the line from hitting the ground.)
Later on: The same feel relating it to the amount of rod bend as loading is discussed.
Still later: Once getting into loop formation and loop control, the feel of the amount of resistance to achieve proper rod bend related to casting arc for the needed rod tip path for wide and narrow loops.
Finally: On to different feelings of line resistance as the rod is loaded differently when carrying different lengths of line for casting different distances....
And so on................
Gordy
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>From Craig Buckbee:
Gordy,
One drill I work on with my students is to have them hold the rod with line pinched as I pull on the leader (end of line).
Sometimes, I will take them through the complete cycle of a cast, keeping the line held as they make a slo-mo stroke
getting the feel (and look) of the rod's response - how it builds, where it builds.
I have them close their eyes and take in the feel of the rod being flexed and ask them to search for this feel
when they cast - of course we go over their body's articulations as an avenue to find this bend/feel.
This can be done on Forward or Back casts AND as a means to feel the release of the bend... IMHO a way
over looked part of the cast.
Best,
Craig
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[GH] Craig:
Good teaching ploy.
Gets into the feel of the stop sequence, too as well as that of the release of line from the line hand at the end of the cast.
Body motion is so important, especially when distance casting. Adds to the sense of feel.
Once, in Alaska, we were discussing this. There was a dead tree trunk about 5' high on the bank. We took turns casting with our backs tight against this. Makes a believer right away!!!
Feel is important, too, in learning single and double hauls.
Gordy
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>From Bernd Ziesche :
Hi Gordy,
I quite often read/hear the long belly line would fit best on static roll casts when aiming for highest possible casting distances.
I disagree with this observation.
The key is in learning how to shoot line in that "non dynamic" roll cast. Once we master the shoot the TT line can offer great distances (hard to beat with any long belly line I can think of).
All my best
Bernd
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[GH] Bernd,
After I read your message, this morning, I went out and tried it. I used one of the TT lines with a 40' head as compared with a Scientific Anglers Expert distance long belly line.
YOU ARE CORRECT !!
I did better with the TT using a long shoot. I get the feeling that 40' TT taper shot much like a shooting head.
I think one of the reasons for the difference is that with the TT line, most of the head is out of the rod tip whereas with the very long belly line, a lot of that long belly is shooting out through the rod guides.
Thanks for the tip !
Gordy
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