GCC EXPO / SA Fly lines / Spey question / Clarifications

Walter & Group...

From Bob Tabbert on the GCC EXPO :

Gordy, If Jim or any other Master or CCI plans on attending  the GCC EXPO, please, all come on out to cast at the Sat  10:00 AM  Emergency room casting clinic.  On Friday 10:00AM  I will be teaching a roll casting clinic on the  water.  I am certain that there will be CCI testing by Tom Jindra and  associates!  If there is a planned FFF Continued Casting Educational  Program, it has been kept a good secret.  Th ERCC is an attempt to get more casters out there on the lawn, casting, learning from each other  and having fun! The web site for the GCC: www.gulfcoastfff'org contains the details of the EXPO.

  Thanks for your help,

Bob 

Robert L. Tabbert
Conservation, Fly Fishing, Exploration
Winter: 211 Ursuline St, Lafayette, LA 70506 
Summer: N14925,W Turner Lk Rd
Lac du Flambeau, WI 54538
cell# 337 781 3650

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Bruce Richards responds to our request for information on obtaining the SA Distance Expert Orange fly lines by FFF Instructors :

Hi Gordy,

For now, have them send their requests to me. I have to develop a new person their so I don't have to be in the middle. I did that before so I coud make sure the requestors were FFF instructors. Will have to show someone else how to look them up on the website.

 

I need shipping address, credit card #, and what they want, of course (many forget to send that!).

 

Bruce

 

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Bruce,

Thanks.  In my opinion these are the best lines for teaching and for practice as well as ideal for use when candidates take the exam.  The blaze orange color contasts well with almost all backgrounds so its easy for the examiners to see.  This helps prevent repeating tasks do to poor line visability.... especially when the task may have been perfectly performed the first time.

To FFF Instructors:

Bruce can be contacted at :  bwrflylines@xxxxxxxxxxx

Gordy

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                                                          SPEY QUESTION

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From Aaron Reimer :

To The Spey Question.

The longer the line the More Skill whether with a Speycast or straight line cast.

 

I have found over the years that working with long line on short rod will build a better Caster Faster.

 

I coach my THCI students to use a short rod and a long line.

 

 I work with 65 ft head and my Zpey 12' 3"   and stand in water up to my thighs when I get a chance work on my own cast.

The short and long is to use as much belly as you can handle and work up to a longer line.

 

Aaron Speybum Reimer

THCI

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From Dave Jacobson :

Dear Gordy, Lou and group,

Some ideas regarding Lou?s switch rod questions?..

The first step I would take is to know the grain window of your switch rod.

On the lighter end of that grain window, you will have your ?Scandinavian? type shooting heads, using ?touch and go? underhanded casts(single, snake roll, etc) which sounds like what you have been doing.

Mid grain window, you will increase head length, thus providing you the capability of ?touch and go? and sustained/waterborne anchor casts (singles, snake rolls, double, circle/snaps,). With the increase on head length on a relatively short rod, you will encounter more casting technique challenges in moving longer and heavier line with a short lever. A short belly spey would give you a head length in the 40- 55 foot range. Other options would be weight forward ?steelhead/salmon? lines (50-60 foot heads). A nice compromise would be something like a AFS Outbound type line (30-40 foot head length). All line choices dependent on grain weight and casting application. You have the option of a consistent working line length, as well as shooting/retrieving.

Top of the grain window (heaviest) you will go to a short, heavy head (Skagit lines with 20-28 foot heads) (more weight to move weight-dense tips, large flies, etc). You will utilize more sustained anchor casts (snap/circles, double, pokes) providing the capacity of short D loops, long distance and heavy ?payloads?. You are back to stripping/retrieving line though.

 

 

To use imagery, and quote Way Yin, Topher Browne and Greg Pearson (Spey to Z DVD)

 Scandinavian/underhanded (light and short head) technique is the Ferrari of two handed casting.

Modern Spey (using longer and slightly heavier heads) technique is the Rolls Royce of two handed casting.

Skagit (short and heavy heads) technique is the 18 Wheeler loaded with beer of two handed casting

 

Hope this helps in some way,

 

Dave

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                                                         CLARIFICATIONS

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From Ally Gowans :

Hi Gordy,

 

The superimposed sketch that I sent a few days ago was derived from the video by Lovoll but I wouldn?t want anyone else to get the blame of it.

I traced the rod and line positions from still frames after enhancing them and then superimposed the graphics from the sketches which I thinks makes them interesting. The direction of the line is a clear indication of the direction in which the tip must have travelled immediately before the line started to overtake it.

 It?s important to remember that whilst the rod is pulling line the line segment adjacent to the tip and rod tip are travelling at the same velocity. When their paths diverge they do so slowly to begin with and during this phase visual detection of the embryonic loop is very difficult and it is not until later, after the tip velocity and line velocity are substantially different that the loop becomes apparent. However the location of the fly leg gives clear indication of the actual launch direction where the loop must have started to form. The clearest demonstration of where the line launches is easily observed from a 170 deg distance cast. In many cases the launch is not far from the minimum cord length and at around 90 deg to the fly leg direction.

Best regards,

Ally Gowans

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Ally...

Thanks for clarifying.  I placed the attachment with this message so members don't have to dig back to find it.

Gordy

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From Tony Loader :

Hi Gordy,

 

For those who may not be aware, "The Rod And The Cast", complete with links to slow motion video of the casts studied, is available for download here:

 

http://www.flycastinginstitute.com/e-library.html

 

Regards,

Tony.

 

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Tony....

 

Thanks.  A great deal to be learned by studying this. I've archived it to my computer files and also have hard copy for future reference.

 

Gordy

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