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CORRECTION: THE COUNTERPOINT SECTION IN YESTERDAY'S MESSAGE WAS SENT BY JIM BARR OF RHODE ISLAND, NOT BY JIM BASS. MY ERROR ! If you are archiving our messages, please make the correction.
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Attached, you will find a poetic message on Al Crise. Author is Jerry Puckett.
Also, attached, a message from Ally Gowens with more historical information on Grant.
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ESSENTIALS - VARIABLES / STRAIGHT LINE CASTING
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From Scott Swartz,
Hi Gordy,
I have been following this "Variables" discussion with great interest. I
have not participated because I did not really understand the question and
because I have been really, really busy.
I wasn't sure what you meant by "variables" and waited to see what kind of
responses you got. I agree with Dusty Sprague, and think that the term
"Essentials" seems a bit dogmatic. If the "Essentials" were called
instead " The 5 (or3, 6 or 7 ) Principles to better understand basic
single handed fly casting" that would do much to soothe ruffled feathers
all around, and be more accurate as well, in my opinion.
For instance, while practicing throwing very early tailing loops recently,
I stumbled across a method whereby I could throw an upside down forward
loop having the fly land gently.
To do this, I would start the forward cast before the backcast had
straightened out, violating Essential #5 (Pause between casting strokes)
and Essential # 1 ( removal of slack in the line)
This in turn shorten my stroke, violating Essential #4 (Length of casting
stroke)
I would then hit the cast very sharply and execute a short, very rapid
haul, violating Essential #2, (Proper Acceleration)
The improper application of power way too early would cause a concave tip
path violating Essential #3.
In that one cast, I would be violating every single one of the 5 Essentials.
But by violating them all, I can still get a useful cast that I can
control and that is practical for my purposes ? getting a fly under
overhanging mangroves without powering it in horizontally with a
resulting large splash.
What happens is that by hitting the cast way too early with the haul and
rotation, then stopping the cast short on the forward stroke, RSP occurs
way prematurely and the tip rises very quickly (concave tip path) well
above the mass of trailing line traveling at a high rate of speed. A weak
loop forms over the top of the tip, but the mass of trailing line is
traveling faster than the weak loop, and forms a secondary, more powerful,
loop behind and below the primary loop. This second loop over takes the
weak loop which then morphs into a circle and disapears (straightening
out to become part of the rod leg) ; and the bottom leg of the new loop
becomes the fly leg.
I started playing with this cast after becoming involved in a discussion
on Sexyloops regarding tailing loops. The discussion was comprised of 208
separate posts on the subject, and was one of the most interesting
discussions I have ever been involved in regarding casting ? which
admitedly are few, since I have only recently been discovering what
happens in a cast-.
I believe that discussions such as this benefit instructors because, in
order to help or share techniques with students, friends or fellow
instructors who are already very competent, one little insight into some
esoteric point could be an important factor when analysing a slow motion
video, for instance.
And not only that, but any discussion that gets one away from the keyboard
and out onto the field with a rod in hand, cannot be all bad.
Thanks again for all your time, Gordy, and for that of everyone
participating.
Cheers,
Jim
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Jim,
I'd sure like to see a video of this cast !
Back in January of 2001, Joe Humphries gave a casting demo at the Denver Show. He made credible casts as he violated each one of the "essentials" one by one. Then he turned to the audience and announce he was going to violate all of them with one cast. After a few minutes while he pretended to get ready for this feat, he turned to the audience and said, "I lied. I can't do that."
Gordy
Gordy
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From: Alastair Gowans
[alastair.gowans@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010 5:23 PM To: 'Gordy Hill' Subject: RE: Comments on VARIABLES topic / Grant - history Hi
Gordy, Grant was not just a
fly caster he was something of a genius, fiddle maker, musical composer, gents
barber, fishing tackle maker, farmer, woodcutter and more during his 86 years.
Here are some of his most notable casting feats. Mr Grant afterwards cast from an anchored boat on the
Mr Grant then journeyed south, and in 1896 gave his
celebrated exhibition in Mr Grant on three separate
afternoons. Thursday, December 10, Mr Grant, steady breeze
downstream, 15 inches above water level: 20-foot rod, 56 yards; 18-foot 5-inch
rod, 54 yards; 10-foot rod, 37 yards. Friday, December 11, Mr Grant, 19-foot rod, 53 yards 5
inches; 16-foot 10-inch rod, 49 yards 1 foot. Not only did Grant make
these casts with a silk line and greenheart rod without shooting any line he
also did it without injuring himself thereby demonstrating good technique which
is something that very few of today’s double handed casting competitors can
claim. Could he have competed today? I rather think the question is could any of
today’s casters have competed against Grant? Note that Grant also cast 111ft
with a 10ft rod greenheart rod without shooting
line. Best
regards, Ally
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