Walter & Group...
I have included an attachment from Thomas Berggren with a link to a fund raising auction the proceeds of which will be used for conservation action on the River Em in Sweden. Many interesting articles offered. G.
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QUIZ ANSWERS
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Interesting to see how some others answered the questions. Of course we must remember that there may be other causes of the problems cited demanding different solutions. While I can't possibly share all the answer messages, I'll pick one or two more to send.
Mark Milkovitch's answers are in the second attachment.
Gordy
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I picked Gary Davison's set of answers as very good. Not the short, concise answers which are on target :-
Gary & Group... Here is something which came up recently
(Re. questions 1.) through 5.) I've been coaching some CCI candidates and
have run across some problems that have recurred. These are
described in questions 7.) through 14.) . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1.) Your "intermediate"student has
done pretty well. She has good loop control and timing while casting
in the 40 - 50 foot range using her own outfit. This is a medium
action 9' rod with a WF9F line. She now starts to cast with the same line and leader,
but with an 8' medium action rod. She develops a series of tailing
loops. Give two likely causes for
this.
A. Casting stroke (Not
enough) B. Power application (Spike of power to compensate for
shorter stroke) 2.) What is your suggested correction for
fault a. ? Lengthen casting stroke for
outlay of line base on rod capability. 3.) Your correction for fault b. ?
Smooth acceleration to avoid any spike of
power. 4.) She exhibits BOTH fault a.
And fault b. with each cast. How do you handle that problem ?
Maintain a longer casting stroke and smooth
out the acceleration for even power
application. 5.) After practicing for about 3
weeks with the shorter rod, she then goes back to the longer one.
Now her loops are big and she can't make the distance she had made with
the shorter rod. Why ? Convex
path adjust back to the shorter casting stroke for
the outlay of line with longer rod.
+ 6.) Another student casts with good
tracking. There is practically no change of rod plane (casting
plane) between the back cast and the forward cast. He makes very
high trajectory back casts and follows with at attempt to make high
trajectory forward casts as well. He has a stroke length and rod arc
whch are fine for the length of the line carried and he is using smooth
constant acceleration to a stop with excellant application of
power. His timing is very good. Tailing
loops result. Why ?
Compromised the Straight Line Path of the
rod tip. Above example created a Concave rod tip path.
7.) You are helping a CCI candidate prepare
for his exam. He is using a fast action 7 wt. Sage TCR fly
rod. His line is a WF 7F SA Expert Distance Line. The leader is
8' in length and tapered. He does just fine with most of
his tasks and easily makes the required distance
cast. When he gets to the roll cast tasks, he has
a perfect set-up but then has trouble making tight loops which are below
head level. a.
What is his problem ? Convex rod tip path caused
by premature rotation of the wrist on the cast.
b. How
do you advise him ? Hold rod rotation
to very end of casting stroke to maintain SLP and tight loop.
8.) Another CCI candidate can't quite
make the 75' required distance cast. He is using lots of energy and
has fairly tight loops on both back cast and forward cast. The
leader and end of the fly line crumple into a poor layout with the fly
behind the leader connection. a. What is
the most likely reason for his problem ? Too much power application sending wow's into loop
pattern inefficient. b.
Tell us your advice to him. Ease up
on power, let the rod load and unload properly, smooth out the lay out of
the line in the casting strokes . 9.) This CCI candidate is having
trouble getting the fly close enough to a close target (20'). He
does fine with the 30' and 45' targets, but he keeps overcasting the close
target. His loops are good and his application of power
appropriate. Tracking is fine. a. What is the
most likely problem ? Trajectory is
off. b. How do you
advise him ? Needs to lean forward into the
target to obtain better trajectory. 10.) Still another candidate has a
problem with accuracy casting. She does well getting close to each
target with good form and nice loops when casting over her primary casting
shoulder. When doing this over the "opposite" shoulder, she gets the
fly to the 20' and 30' targets, but does poorly on the 45' target; either
not making the distance and/or deviating to either side of it by an
unacceptably wide margin. a. What is her
most likely problem ? Lack of casting
stroke causing a possible power acceleration problem to make distance with
accuracy. b. How do
you advise her ? Make sure rod position is correct. Elbow out comb your hair with the rod to get better
casting stroke length for distance, and smooth acceleration for good
accuracy. 11.) Now we have a candidate who is
trying to make a good reach mend. She can't get the fly and line to
land with a straight path between the rod tip and the fly. She is
right handed and there is always a layout with a curve, line belly to the
right. a. What is
the likely reason for this ? Convex
path of the rod tip after the stop, by pushing the rod away then
back to the 90 degree hold position. b. How can
you help her ? Administer a straight line path of
the rod tip after the stop to the 90 degree hold position.
12.) You have helped the candidate in
11.) so that now she can get a nice straight layout on her reach
mend. However, as she makes the mend to either side, the fly pulls
way back from the target (target representing a feeding
lane). a. Now what is her
problem ? Not slipping line.
Or not compensating with enough line if not slipping line.
b. How do
you advise her ? Have enough line off
the reel to allow the slipping line through the rod where target area is
achieved. Same if not slipping line. 13. ) This candidate needs lots of
help, especially with his distance cast. He can't make the required
distance and is off to one side with the layout. As I watched his
back cast, it looked pretty good from the side, but when I got way behind
him, I saw that what had looked like a fairly tight loop when viewed from
the side, when seen from behind was really a very wide loop from side to
side. a. What is his
likely casting arm position as he did that ? Over the top, or casting arm move out away from the body
on the back cast and in close to the body on the forward cast. Could
even cause tracking problem due to rotation of upper body with arm
movement. b. Why did this
result in his inability to reach the target distance ? Cause loop pattern to be wide and out of alignment very
poor efficiency or energy in this loop pattern. c. How would you
handle this situation ? Have
candidate make back cast and stop with lay out of line on the ground to
show where line is located in back cast. Re-adjust arm path to get
on track and then compress arm movements stroke in straight line during
the casting stroke This should tighten loop patterns for more
energy so more distance. 14. ) Our last CCI candidate also has
trouble with the accuracy tasks. He's an older chap who uses his
rather good fishing style .... Forward elbow, off vertical rod plane,
slightly open stance. His loops are good as is his smooth
application of power. He gets the distance to each target very
well. No wind is blowing. His fly lands way out to one side or other
of the 20' and 30' targets but he gets it very close to the 45' target
each time. c.) Why do
you think this is happening ? Style
of casting on these distances would make accuracy difficult. Off
Vertical rod plane open stance. d.) You
corrected his problem very well in short order. How did you do that
? Closed his stance and made the
closer casts with a more vertical rod plane and have him lean into
the targets to help with trajectory. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Answers from Frank Hartford :
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1.) Your "intermediate"student has done
pretty well. She has good loop control and timing while casting in the
40
- 50 foot range using her own outfit. This is a medium action 9' rod
with
a WF9F line.
She now starts to cast with the same line
and leader, but with an 8' medium action rod. She develops a series of
tailing loops.
Give two likely causes for
this.
a. A shorter rod= a shorter arc. She is not compensating for this by
increasing the arc of her stroke
b. She may be increasing the power to try to compensate for
the shorter rod
2.) What is your suggested correction for fault
a. ? Increase the arc of the stroke
3.) Your correction for fault b.
? Decrease the power which will load the rod less and create less
of a dip in the path of the rod tip
4.) She exhibits BOTH fault a. and
fault b. with each cast. How do you handle that problem
? Increasing the arc of the stroke will take care of both problems
5.) After practicing for about 3 weeks with
the shorter rod, she then goes back to the longer one. Now her loops
are
big and she can't make the distance she had made with the shorter
rod.
Why ? The arc is now too large relative to the amt. of line out and
the wide loops are inefficient and reduce the distance.
6.) Another student casts with good
tracking. There is practically no change of rod plane (casting plane)
between the back cast and the forward cast. He makes very high
trajectory
back casts and follows with at attempt to make high trajectory forward
casts as
well. He has a stroke length and rod arc whch are fine for the length of
the line carried and he is using smooth constant acceleration to a stop
with
excellant application of power. His timing is very
good.
Tailing loops
result.
Why
? He is describing a V shape with the path of the rod tip .When he
adjusts so that the B C and F C are 180 degrees apart , the tailing
loops will disappear .
7.) You are helping a CCI candidate prepare for
his exam. He is using a fast action 7 wt. Sage TCR fly rod. His line
is a WF 7F SA Expert Distance Line. The leader is 8' in length and
tapered. He does just fine with most of his tasks and easily
makes the required distance cast.
When he gets to the roll cast tasks, he has a
perfect set-up but then has trouble making tight loops which are below
head
level.
a. What is
his problem ? Hard to say without seeing the cast , but the problem
I see most commonly is describing a circular arc with the rod tip ,
instead of a S L P
b. How do
you advise him ? Emphasize that the F C is the same for the roll cast
as it is with an overhead cast The tip of the rod should move on a S L
P and stop as it is moving forward , not down .I advise him to use a
fair amt. of translational movement before he moves the wrist at all .
8.) Another CCI candidate can't quite make
the 75' required distance cast. He is using lots of energy and has
fairly
tight loops on both back cast and forward cast. The leader and end of
the
fly line crumple into a poor layout with the fly behind the leader
connection.
a. What is the
most likely reason for his problem ? I'm not sure whether the cast
is just running out of steam and the end of the line and leader are
falling to the ground , or the distal line and leader are kicking down .
b. Tell us
your advice to him. In the first case , he may need to increase the
acceleration just before the stop. In the second case , he may be
keeping the rod vertical after the stop on the presentation cast
instead of following the line down. This is similar to what one does
with more vigor and intention when executing a tuck cast
9.) This CCI candidate is having trouble
getting the fly close enough to a close target (20'). He does fine with
the 30' and 45' targets, but he keeps overcasting the close target. His
loops are good and his application of power appropriate. Tracking is
fine.
a. What is the most
likely problem ? The close target requires a more downward
trajectory . His B C should be back and up and the F C will be down to
the target 180 degrees from the B C .
b. How do you advise him
? as above
10.) Still another candidate has a problem
with accuracy casting. She does well getting close to each target with
good form and nice loops when casting over her primary casting
shoulder.
When doing this over the "opposite" shoulder, she gets the fly to the
20' and
30' targets, but does poorly on the 45' target; either not making the
distance
and/or deviating to either side of it by an unacceptably wide
margin.
a. What is her most
likely problem ? She is probably casting across her body and thus
limiting her back cast
b. How do you
advise her ? She should raise her rod hand above her head and thus be
able to bring the rod tip back as far as she needs to .
11.) Now we have a candidate who is trying
to make a good reach mend. She can't get the fly and line to land with
a
straight path between the rod tip and the fly. She is right handed and
there is always a layout with a curve, line belly to the
right.
a. What is the
likely reason for this ? She is waiting too long after the stop to move
her hand to the right .
b. How can you
help her ? Have her start the mend immediately after the stop.
12.) You have helped the candidate in 11.)
so that now she can get a nice straight layout on her reach mend.
However,
as she makes the mend to either side, the fly pulls way back from the
target
(target representing a feeding lane).
a. Now what is her
problem ? She is using the same length of line for the straight ahead
cast ant the reach cast
b. How do you
advise her ? Either use more line initially for the mend cast , or
slip line with the reach .
13. ) This candidate needs lots of help,
especially with his distance cast. He can't make the required distance
and
is off to one side with the layout. As I watched his back cast, it
looked
pretty good from the side, but when I got way behind him, I saw that
what had
looked like a fairly tight loop when viewed from the side, when seen
from behind
was really a very wide loop from side to side.
a. What is his likely
casting arm position as he did that ? Probably canted to the right
off vertical.
b. Why did this result
in his inability to reach the target distance ? He is having a
tracking problem , and is wasting energy bringing the line around to
throw it straight to the target .
c. How would you handle
this situation ? Have him make a B C and stop and turn around to
look at the line . Continue to do this until he can cast the line
straight back.
14. ) Our last CCI candidate also has
trouble with the accuracy tasks. He's an older chap who uses his rather
good fishing style .... Forward elbow, off vertical rod plane, slightly
open
stance. His loops are good as is his smooth application of
power.
He gets the distance to each target very well. No
wind is blowing. His fly lands way out to one side or other of the 20'
and
30' targets but he gets it very close to the 45' target each
time.
c.) Why do you
think this is happening ? He is having a tracking error with the
short casts .This is not as damaging on the long casts , because the
eye to target line and rod hand to target line become more parallel as
the distance increases .
d.) You corrected
his problem very well in short order. How did you do that
?
Have him switch to an overhead cast .
Gordy
Regards
Frank Harford
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From: Thomas Berggren
[info@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 4:48 AM To: goldnwst@xxxxxxxxx; 'Dan McCrimmon'; 'Barbara Wuebber'; 'Gordy Hill'; 'allen crise'; 'Robert Gillespie'; 'Raffaele Mascaro'; 'Al Buhr' Subject: Would you like to fish in River Em? Found Raising Auction... Hi, I’m not sure if this is proper to spread to
FFF Members, so therefore I’ll send it to you guys to judge. If you think this
is good… Feel free to spread it! This Found Raising Auction is lead by Gustaf
Ulfsparres Foundation and the purpose is to raise money for the conservation
program in River Em. River Em in Sweden is well known because of
the large amount of large sea trout’s. There are lots of donators and there is a
list of many objects and fishing trips for sale and all the profit will only
serve the sea trouts in River EM. What is my own personal interest in
this? I’m one of the donators and I thinking “ I
can’t save all fly fishing waters around the world, but I can do something
sometimes” This year I choose this project….. What is your personal interest in
this? If you find any of the objects interesting
or perhaps if you like to fish in River Em (which normally is very difficult to
get access to).. Or.. There are a lot of trips and you will find all types of
destinations from Sweden, Norway to Argentina.. Books, equipment and paintings
and so on… Just place a bid and enjoy your trip and
think… “ I have also done something about conservation this
year” Follow the link to see the list and how to
do for taking part in the auction. http://www.gustiftelse.se/auction/ The auction will start on Sunday 25 October
and ends on 8 November. Best regards// Thomas
Berggren, Certified Instructor Lilla Malma Fishery |