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    Walter & Group...

    From Lou Bruno:


     

    Gordy,

    While working on the spey line quiz I realized that I couldn?t find a sufficient resource. I have a couple of books on spey casting but they do not discuss the topics in overly great detail. So, if we don?t have the experience to answer the questions that were contained in the quiz can you suggest where we might find a resource that could?

     

    Lou

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    Lou...
     
    I don't know of any single resource which can come close to answering all our questions.  Of course, that can be said for the many topics we cover.... and points to one of the values of our Study Group.
     
    As Al Buhr said, there is a lot of material out there which touts "myths", unfounded personal opinions, etc., etc. Some to be found in magazine articles, internet discussions,blogs and in conversation.  Lots of disagreement and lack of consensus even among the experts matched with many basic opinions which were consistent.
     
    Reminds me of a Conclave Workshop where four acknowledged experts were coaching the participants.  One of the students became confused and asked which one of the experts he should heed.  The best advice he got was this:  "Listen to the one who makes the most sense to you .."
     
    There were four reasons I decided to host the detailed messages on lines for two handed casting :- 
     
    1.) As I tried to learn about the use of these lines, I noted lots of confusion as I talked with Spey casters who, while more experienced than I with the subject, seemed not at all at ease with it.
     
    2.) I became aware of the fact that there have been many advances in fly line technology (systems of rating, design and specific uses) during the past 5 years ..... seemingly a "work in progress".
     
    3.) Lots of differences of opinion cropped up as I conversed with various Spey Casters both here and from the other side of the Atlantic.
     
    4.) This topic logically followed our others on fly lines for single handed casting.
     
    Being unable by virtue of lack of two handed casting expertise (I'm learning, though have a long way to go) I couldn't do this as I usually do by coming up with my own text nor could I come up with the best questions and answers without help from those who have as their primary expertise the teaching of two handed casting. These included Al Buhr, Ally Gowans, Rick Williams, Rick Whorwood, Tim and Steve Rajeff and Simon Gawesworth. Of course, these experts didn't always agree with one another, but they each had valuable information to contribute.
     
    These experts who have been helping us, may have their own views on up to date reading material.
     
    I found two texts to be helpful, though not nearly as complete with regard to information on the fly lines as our messages during the past two months :
     
    SPEY CASTING, by Simon Gawesworth, 2004, Stackpole Books. ISBN 08117-0104-2.  Note pp. 263-266.
     
    #   TWO-HANDED FLY CASTING, Spey Casting Techniques, by Al Buhr, 2006, Frank Amato Publications.  ISBN : 1-57188 - 395 - 9 (Softbound) & ISBN: 1 - 57188 - 396 - 7 (Hardbound)  For basic information on lines, check out p.8 & pp. 59, 60.
     
    Gordy
     
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                                                       Organizing and Archiving Study Group Information
     
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    From Mark Milkovitch :
     

    Gordy,

    I did not pass my Masters exam on this first try.  I had a back cast downward wrist flip coupled with a forward creep that was a show stopper.  Bruce Richards and Rick Williams did the exam so I got not just the diagnosis but a prescription for the cure as well. Dr. Richards told me that even a couple weeks perfect practice could be enough to cure the problem. 

    I?ve got an idea to run by you. While you?re on Montauk I?ll be taking time to reorganize my notes from our study group as well as my reading.  When I joined the study group last spring, I had no idea about the amount and variety of information I would want to collect and catalogue.  It didn?t even occur to me that the five topic areas for the exam questions would be a good starting point for creating a topic outline I could use to create a folder and file structure for saving the info in Microsoft Word. As a result I?ve tried to organize on the fly with less than optimum results. 

     I was thinking that as I reorganize I might draft an outline of how I?m organizing the content and then ask the study group for their points of view to see if we can?t come up with some recommendations we could make to new group members when they join. 

     We could publish the suggestions in the Loop or simply send it out as a memo when people join the group. Anything we do to help them organize and easily retrieve info when needed would certainly help their study efficiency and make it easier for people to participate in the quizzes. What do you think?  

    Thanks,

    Mark   

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    Mark .....

    Good idea !   Some members have already done something along these lines.  We might profit by hearing from them.

    Gordy