Teaching paradigms / Casting pictures

Walter & Group....

From Dave Leger :

Gordy,

I’m one of about 15 CIs that teach 15 minute free casting lessons to the public at the Chicago fly show and the Minn. Fly show for John Breslin. Typically we will do 350 to 400 lessons a weekend. For me being a new CI (several years) this teaching  opportunity has been outstanding. For us non-guide or non-in-the “business” CIs it’s hard to get that kind of teaching experience anywhere.

 

So to the point, I believe that Macauley is correct when he suggests that for most people at the beginner level or who just want to fish, we may be taking the long way around so to speak by using or integrating the conceptual with the hands on.  I, we show instructors with primarily a kinesthetic approach get most folks making nice loops with a lay down, easily in 5 to 10 minutes with very little “casting mechanics” being discussed, and double-hauling in one lesson if they have even a modest casting background.  It really is the most bang for the buck way, relative to the amount of time spent, I think.

 

With that said though I believe we as teachers must have the in-depth knowledge that the FFF program requires to make any method work well, Macauley’s or the more traditional ones. Fortunately, most students aren’t in a race to progress and can be developed at a more relaxed pace with one or by using components of several different approaches that best suit the students needs.

 

The only absolute is that there are no absolutes.

 

Dave Leger

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From Al Crise:

Howdy Gordy

  At Gulf Coast Conclave I had the great privilege of talking to Stu Apte. He and I lived in the same area of the Keys.

 we talked about some of the Keys we had fished people we knew and such. I picked up his new Book of "Wind and Tides" I found it full of really interesting stuff about Stu and his life. form child hood in Miami. threw flight school and Fishing some of the great places. If you are a pilot you will enjoy this one. If you are Fly fisher you to will find it a good read.

 

On  Macauley Lord's  "DI"   I have use that, with what I call the "WHY". Not just do it this way. but I also include the why this or that works or does not. This I think gives some depth to the learning. Boy Scouts I will skip some of the 'why' to keep the boys learning and making the moves required. That afternoon they will be fishing. Next lesson will have more of the 'why'. I do show or tell them that "the loop did such and such because..." So the they can correct the problem when seen.

 I do try to stay from: "Just do it my way". For: "This might help you". Many have a need for the "Numbers" "Parts and pieces" of the cast. Or maybe the Rhythm of the cast. "Music, Rhythm and Learning the Doublehaul" by J.Friesenhahn.

 Each student is different each student has to have time alone, after a new task is shown, to find how many 'zummies' it will take them to make it happen.  Show, let them try, show them again, Tell them why.

 "Lead, guide and direct."

 

 

Gordy have you had the worm hatch yet?

ol Al

 

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Al...  No hatch just yet.   G.

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From Mark Milkovitch:

 

Gordy,

 

I wasn’t able to get a very complete idea of how a “Direct Instruction” casting lesson would proceed.  Is there a DVD or an article that would illustrate the method? Also, I’ve looked in the FFF website for a glossary which covers the casting terms like “drag” and “slide loading” we’ve been discussing. Am I just missing it? I gather that the glossary committee might be developing one.  If it’s not on the website, is there a discussion draft available?  

 

Thanks,

Mark Milkovich

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Mark...  No DVD or instructional that I'm aware of.  I thought the article pretty well explained the concept though it wasn't intended to go into the details of each instructional move.

We are working on that very glossary now.  Takes a long time !

While not strict definitions, I have tried to send some word descriptions of these terms during the past two weeks.  Problem is that  not all agree on each of these descriptions.... nothing "official" as yet.

Gordy

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                                                     Pictures of Rick Hartman's Cast

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ANALYSIS BY ALLY GOWANS:

Hi Gordy,

 

In the pictures the caster is using “translation” throughout his cast, rotation is added to body translation to produce the total linear velocity.

 

Best wishes,

Ally Gowans

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