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In my last message on DRAG, after item 7.) the sentence should have read:
"If drag is outside the stroke, it can decrease stroke length. If inside the stroke, it can increase it."
Gordy
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REACH CAST
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From Jerry Puckett:
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Thanks Gordy and Phil,
I practiced the reach cast today according to Phil's
description. Got a grip on it now! Will start using it
when fishing!
Jerry Puckett
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From Peter Morse :
Got that clarification Gordy - thanks, went out and made it work,
will I knew you folks could do it..... even though the two of you are about 4000 miles apart in different hemispheres ! Thanks to Phil for a clarion clear description..... from a teacher who has that cast welded into his DNA. Gordy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
DRAG
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From Lou Bruno:
Gordy, With
the discussion lately on lift and drag on the fly line, I am curious if a
fly line that had a different cross section (oval, thin, etc.) would react
differently (cast further, have more drag, less drag, less wind
resistance, generate more lift, etc.) then the more traditional round fly
line? Is the fly line manufactured with a circular cross section due to
the manufacturing process solely? Lou ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Lou... Intuitively, I feel that with increased diameter one would have increased skin surface. This would probably yield increased skin drag. I don't know about the effect of different cross sectional geometries. Perhaps some of our engineers and physics experts could help us with that part of your question. Gordy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From Jim Laing: Hi Gordy,
I really like your example of drag/ translation with
reference to the Rajeff/ Hartmann distance casts. I agree with all
of your points, but think it may be worth while to expand the
concept to include other "fishing" casts -
The roll cast seems to work much better with "delayed rotation" after
drag. Parallels the idea of "applying power at the mid-night
hour".
How about a "tilted" accuracy cast with a pulling style where
the elbow drops first and the stroke is finished with
a "power-snap". It could be argued that the
initial movement of the elbow is a translation/ drag
move.
long cast = more drag / short cast = less drag,
Jim
PICK-UPS
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ One more answer to the question on pick-ups from Mark Milkovitch: Gordy,
Here is my contribution to the Pickups thread. 1. Standard Pickup – Begin with tip at water, slack removed. Simultaneously raise hand toward the back cast position and the tip to approx 600 above horizontal in order to lift the fly line (down to the line/leader connection) off the water surface. Once the line tip is accelerating smoothly toward the caster the rod is accelerated to a stop for the backcast. This general purpose backcast can be used whenever there are no specific conditions which dictate an alternative. (G. Borger p.223)
2. Standard Pickup (Large Fly Variation) - Similar to #1 above except the entire line AND leader are picked off the surface by a Loading Move so the Power Snap needs to lift the fly only off the water. This pickup is used to prevent an overly low trajectory for the fly on the backcast. (J. Wulff p.199).
3. Wiggle Pickup (G. Borger p.225) – Start with rod tip low to water, continuously wiggle the tip back and forth approx 1 foot in either direction while lifting the rod to free the line from obstructions, typically plants. As the line clears the top of the plants, the line is accelerated to the rear for the backcast.
4. Horizontal Waves (Wulff p.152) – Similar to #3 above except that the amount of line extending beyond the rod tip determines the size of the side to side strokes and how quickly the rod is lifted. The side to side strokes continue as a constant loading motion until the line leader connection is reached and then a power snap accelerates the line into the back cast.
5. Dancing Line (G. Borger, p.226) or Vertical Humps (Wulff, p.152) Pickup – The pickup calls for oscillating the rod tip first up, under power, then down by relaxing the arm as the arm moves from an extended to a bent elbow position as the entire fly line is aerialized followed by a lifting power snap for a steeple type back cast or a normal backcast if there are no obstructions behind the caster. This pickup works well in instances where horizontal rod tip movement would further foul line and leader in vegetation of other obstructions.
6. Loop Pickup (Wulff p.153) – Beginning with the rod to the side, the rod tip follows a cup shaped path forward and across the body (a motion similar to that used for side armed bait casting). At the point where the rod tip flexes forward an almost vertical power snap up aerializes the line to a near vertical position if necessary. This pickup removes the fly from the water with minimal fly movement across the water surface and can provide an extremely high backcast when needed.
7. Pickup to Change Flies (Wulff p.154) – From the dangle, the rod tip is positioned over the off shoulder and the rod is lifted in a loading move followed by a SLOW power snap with the hand at eye level. The leader will lift and move in the direction of the off side hand where it can be grabbed firmly and held. The line is then roll cast downstream where it will remain until the fly is changed.
8. Roll Cast Pickup for Floating Lines - Especially useful when fishing upstream and eliminating slack by lifting the rod to vertical. Once the rod is vertical, it is dropped back to the normal ending position for a backcast which slides some line with it. At that point the line is roll cast forward. The roll cast can serve as the presentation cast or with a 600 above horizontal stopping point the line would be aerialized to allow false casts for presentation. (G. Borger p.224)
9. Roll Cast for Sinking Lines – This pickup consists of a sequence of as many roll casts as required to raise a sunken line to the surface where it can more easily picked off the water for a back then forward cast. One shortcoming of repeated roll cast pickups is that they repeatedly lay the line on or over the water in front of the angler in the direction of the fish. (G. Borger, p. 224)
10. C- Pickup – This is another upstream pickup useful when the rod tip is lifted to avoid slack as the line drifts toward the angler. When the rod is about 600 above horizontal, the tip is moved in a C shape (to either side) from top to bottom. Without pause, the rod is then lifted into a standard backcast. The speed with which the “C” is formed determines its size; slower movement produces the larger shape and moves the fly more slowly. A rapidly described “C” is smaller and moves the fly more quickly. This pickup allows the caster to quickly recast the fly without otherwise recovering the slack resulting from the downstream drift. (G. Borger pp. 224-225)
11. Change of Direction Pickup – Provided there is room for an aerial backcast, the rod tip is swept sideways along the surface dragging the line until the rod is pointing in the intended cast direction. Without pause the rod is lifted into the backcast. Off the dangle, the backcast is made on the upstream side of the head and the forward cast on the downstream side.
12. The Positioning Pickups for Spey casts – Snap T (C), Snake Roll.
Thanks, Mark |