Walter & Group...
A couple of comments on the "170 cast" before we go on to our next topic. From Tim Lawson :
Gordy,
Not to prolong this
discussion, but I saw Chase do this cast at the Rendezvous in Whitefish last
year, and for the first time I understood the significance of translation
as it pertains to the casting stroke. The amount of time (distance) he
spends pulling the line…..front and back……..before he starts rotation is
amazing. You have to see this in person to appreciate the line speed he
generates, irrespective of the appearance of a shortened
haul.
Tim
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Now we hear from the cast's "owner", Chase Jablonski . (I suspect he held off responding until some of you did.) :
Hi Gordy,
Great responses from
everyone so far. Here's my take on things.
The increased arc allows the
caster time to continue his acceleration to a greater final speed. The
inefficiency of the (initially) wide loop created by this cast is more than
compensated for by the increased tip speed. We need to remember that the purpose
of tight loops is simply to maintain line speed; generating line speed is
another matter entirely.
I have to disagree with Jim Valle and agree with
you, Gordy, that the haul really does end before RSP on the back cast. The haul
stops as soon as hand decelleration begins (or close). As far as increasing haul
length, I took this footage last summer and my cast has changed a bit since
then. I do haul longer a little longer on the back cast and usually cast with my
right foot forward. I took this clip particularly to demonstrate loop formation
with a pre-RSP haul, so it's not quite the same as my distance
stroke.
Lou,
If I have the casting foot back it's nearly
impossible to take a complete step forward without throwing everything out of
sync (tracking, timing, etc). I tried for many months to get it to work.
Instead, I've gone to a casting foot forward approach, using a stepping
technique sometimes known as the "Hartman Slide," which allows a slight step
back on the back cast and step forward on the forward cast, giving a longer
forward cast haul.
I noticed no one mentioned the grip change, although
it's probably hard to see in that footage unless you look for it. Finger-on-top
on the back cast, thumb on top on the forward cast. The back cast grip allows me
to delay rotation longer.
Thanks to everyone for the input on the cast!
See you at the
Conclave.
Cheers,
Chase
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John Bilotta adds one other reason to exhaust this topic:
9.) It’s fun.
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ACCELERATION
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This topic keeps coming up again and again.... rightly so, since there are many misconceptions lurking out there as we use the term when discussion casting mechanics.
From Mark Milkovitch :
Gordy,
Thank you for bringing
up “rate of acceleration”. In Bruce Richards’ comments on the Kyte and
Moran “Elite Caster” study, he makes the point that the best casters have a
“constant rate of acceleration”. I’m hoping someone in the group can provide
some clarification. Does that mean that no matter how fast the rod tip is
moving, there is a constant amount of force on it to move even faster?
And, is it the case that a constant rate of acceleration is more effective than
an increasing rate of acceleration?
Thanks,
Mark