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    Walter & Group...

    From Jim Valle:

    Gordy and Group,

     

    I teach 3 L’s when it comes to casting in the wind

    Line Plane --- Trajectory

    Loop Size

    Line Speed

     

    In my experience both teaching and personal especially in the salt

     

    The Absolute Most Important Single Issue is Psychological!

     

    The Caster must believe he can make the cast!!!!!!!!

     

    I have had to get in the water with good intermediate and better students, actually  stand behind them and coach each move as they cast, step by step…

    … pick your direction, plan your cast, start with a shorter line, use the wind, lay out some line, use water haul, tighten up….good stop … To get it out there…. It is amazing the effect a howling wind can have on a caster’s mind….  I only learned this because it happened to me once too!  

     

    And in Spey imagine trying to move 60’ of line … same principles apply, but first you have to believe and think happy thoughts before you can fly… (Peter Pan?)

     

    Hope that helps,

    Jim V

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    Jim....  Right you are.  The caster's psyche plays a HUGE part.   Graduated success while practicing helps melt the mental barriers, but only after the principles of wind casting have been learned.  Otherwise, practice can be an exercise in frustration.       G.

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    In line with Jim's last thought, Raf Mascaro comes in with a comment on how the wind can happily affect the D-loop (I love his analogy ! ):

     

    Hi Gordy,
     
    in Spey Casting we have to take advantage of the wind , letting him to blow into the D-Loop.
    In this case the D-Loop is like a sail, the wind blows and the sail is swollen.
     
    Best Regards
    Raf
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    From David Lambert:
     
    Gordy:

    On wind practice:

    Most winds are variable where I fish.  They swirl, change direction, or change speeds, often while a caster is in mid-stroke.  A caster needs to have a quiver full of wind casts and be practiced enough to alter or combine casts in order to cope. 

    My wind litany:  Be prepared to alter stroke to adjust cast angle, timing, speed, or loop shape--or all four if necessary.

    1.  All strong winds:  Underline rod with intermediate or weighted line when casting in especially strong winds.  Add'l line weight and small diameters allow you to cut through wind.  Change to shorter, rapid tapered leaders.
    2.  Wind quarters from caster's side:  Turn back or side to wind and deliver on backcast (backhanded delivery).  Practice backhanded or cross-body delivery. These casts change relative to angle of wind.
    3.  Winds quarters from line hand side:  Turn back or side to wind, cast tight horizontal loops back and conventional tight loops forward.
    4.  Headwinds -- practice elliptical casts with open backcast rounding to a high-to-low angled forward tip cast. Combine with late, aggressive haul to tighten loop and speed turnover.  Use a shorter, faster tapered leader.
    5.  Tailwinds -- practice aggressive, underhanded constant-tension backcast (as though making a dynamic roll with no anchor) to conventional, tight-looped forward cast.  5.a.  Or, angle the tip plane to throw lower, tight looped backcast and rising forward cast (change trajectory).

    About tail winds:  Never understood the wisdom of throwing a higher, open forward loop in a tailwind cast.  I understand the kite theory, but why not throw a tight-looped, well aimed forward cast, since the wind is working for you anyway?

    David Lambert

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    David...   I look at the "kite" as one option.  NOT a good idea when you need accuracy!  One way use it is to save a bit of energy when allowing the wind to help.   G.
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    Mark Milkovitch is our newest member.  His comments are right in line with Jim Valle's on casting psyche.
     
    Brings to mind the first chapter in Mac Brown's book; The Angler Psyche,  CASTING ANGLES , pp 16-29.
     

    Gordy & Group,

     Thanks for allowing me to participate.

     I find that casting in wind is often more difficult than it needs to be simply because we allow ourselves to become frustrated and our casting quality deteriorates.  I know it is true for me and I’ve found it to be true for my fishing guests as well. To get back on track, I find it helpful to shorten the line and make a few “textbook” demonstration casts (smooth acceleration, only moderate power and tight loops) of the required sort (e.g. off shoulder, horizontal, high backcast low forward cast, etc. ) to, and this is important, a very specific target (even if it is a white cap).  I gradually lengthen the casts to see how close to the required casting length I can get with maximum control and minimum power.  This exercise does two things.  First, it gets me back in a good casting grove. Second, it provides a good gauge just how much adjustment to a “fair weather” cast will be required for the current conditions.  It is often much less of an adjustment than originally anticipated.    

     Mark  

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    Comment:  The mental impediments to casting in strong winds tend to melt with practice done alone in company with only the wind.  Small successes bread bigger ones.  This won't work, however, unless the basic principles of handling the wind have been taught first.      G.

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    From Lewis Hinks :

    When Spey casting with downstream wind you could also use a Snake Roll.

     

    Cheers,Lewis

     

    Lewis Hinks, BSc.,                                                                           

    Regional Director, NS                                                         

    Atlantic Salmon Federation (www.asf.ca)                                 

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    Lewis:  A resounding YES to the snake !          G.

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    From Jerry Puckett:

    Gordy:
     
    I wonder if the change in tide brings in cooler water thus less thermal rising creating wind.  Does it have something to do with the mass of water and mass of land equalizing in temperature thus less convection?  Just thinking, absolute do not know!
     
    One of my favorite exercises when casting in the wind is to slowly cast in a circle using different fishing stances and then reverse the circle.  Soon one is casting in the wind without much thought!  Had a friend who said he did not want to fish the western rivers when it was windy.  To which I responded, better stay home.    Got him in one of Al's casting clinics and wind now not problem!   Last time we fished on a windy day he pulled in about 30 plus trout, the biggest being a 24 inch Cutbow!  Yes for the wind that waves!
     
    Jerry Puckett
     
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    Jerry...    Well ....  Down here in the salty tropics, I've observed that the wind often dies down significantly during tide changes.   Don't really know the reason for sure.

    Your CIRCLE is a good way to practice.

    Gordy