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- Subject: Terms forTeaching / "Zummies", "click"," Pssst", "Zic" & "Up-cast"
- Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:18:36 -0400
Walter & Group...
From Bill Toone :
Gordy in regards to a
couple of email threads ago in which power, torque, etc. were discussed. I
have found when teaching men particularly, using the word power often
makes the student think in terms of muscle which then leads to over powering the
cast and exerting way too much energy. When I see this I explain thinking
of power in the context of line speed (and of course the casting mechanics
relating to this). I have found this to have a dramatic impact on the students
who are grossly over powering their casts and/or over exerting themselves.
While it doesn’t make the problem go away, changing their mind set from applying
more muscle to applying more line speed does improve the situation fairly
significantly, at least in my experience.
Regards,
Bill
Toone
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Bill .... Good advice.
When I get a student who simply can't seem to back off from using
too much power, I shift gears. We have a little "fun" session seeing
how far we can unroll a loop without bending the rod. That
little game often does the trick.
I used to think of
fly casting as "propelling" or "throwing" the line followed by the fly .... and
taught that way. I guess that came from my years of surf casting with
conventional equipement on Long Island where brute force was often needed to
belt a heavy tin squid or plug out beyond the first line of
breakers.
When fly fishing,
my father and grandfather had to keep reminding me that muscling the fly rod was
not the way to go. Being a kid, I didn't listen.
Years ago, when
practicing distance casting from a skiff with Tom White I kept falling into the
trap of using too much moxie for my casting as I tried to carry ever increasing
amounts of line. I was wearing a bandana over my neck because of the
tropical sun. Tom stopped me and had me blindfold myself with it. He
then had me false cast with less and less power until I could no longer hear the
line sliding through the guides. His call, " Gordy.... if you
can hear it you're casting too hard."
I began to look at
fly casting very differently years ago, when Lefty came up with his "definition"
of fly casting as "unrolling a loop to a target".
Later, when going
for distance, Lefty taught us to use no more power on the delivery cast than you
used for the prior false cast .... but to haul faster. (He didn't say
"harder".) He'd say, "let your line hand be your
accelerator". While this was a bit of simplification, IT
WORKED.
Another method
shown to me by Jeff Barefoot (of our Group), was to have the student who insists
upon using too much power for the task at hand, use the light Roman Moser rod
grip. Having this student spend time casting this way is always an eye
opener, because he (never a she ) astounds himself at how well and how
far he can cast with this method which simply doesn't allow the use of excessive
force. *
* See
attachment
Gordy
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From Dusty Sprague:
Amen ! to comments from Lefty. Terms for teaching are so
important......while it's fun and enlightening to discuss the physics of casting
and know the correct terms, if we use them unwisely we really hinder a students
progress and can turn them off to entering our sport. I am not
surprised that some walk away from fly fishing as they encounter all the
barriers we place on entry....the terminology....the difficulty of fly
casting....the cost.
Dusty
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Dusty.... Yes, indeed.
As instructors and those among us who teach
instructors, we must understand as much as we can of the physics behind fly
casting. That demands the use of terms which are as correct as possible
when we do that. THEN WE HAVE TO SHIFT INTO LOWER GEAR as we turn about
and teach students.
It is incumbant on the physicist to use terms we
can understand to explain those which we need to learn as he teaches us the
science behind fly casting. Some are very good at that. Others are
not as they confuse rather than enlighten.
We are all aware, that we must tailor the level
of our teaching by the words we choose to the level of understanding of our
students. That works OK as we teach on a one-on-one basis, but doesn't
work so well as we teach classes with students of mixed backgrounds and casting
levels of expertise. When we do that, we really tread the fine line of
using words which will make sense to everybody and yet will not insult the
hightly educated scientist or engineer who may be among
them.
An instructor cannot be effective if he isn't
easily understood.
Years ago, as formal and hightly educated as he
was, Charles Ritz taught by using "undictionaryfied" terms to teach his famed
HS/HL method of fly casting ...... His, "Squeeze-Zic-Block" is an
example. *
Mel Krieger Wumps and Whuuummmmps his way
through some of his videos.....**
I'll sometimes use an onomatopoeiac whistle to
demonstrate with sound, the acceleration of a fly rod.
Al Crise has never ceased to amaze me as he
uses some "way out" language to teach kids to fly cast..... Some of his
terms aren't in any dictionary ........... Some are real head scratchers.
They would short circuit the brain of a PhD physicist ! He gets
into the youngster's brains well, however, and they end up being good
casters. His
comments:-
Howdy Gordy &
Gang,
I have A Few To Add. I
enjoy learning these teaching tips.
"START a fly
cast" TIP at the water or ground to start.
UP CAST BEHIND
YOU not a back cast as this brings the fly back
forward back-high.
I do give the STOPS
names Stop 1 and Stop 2 as in "You missed Stop #2"
Forward cast is OUT IN
FRONT Making the Forward stroke felt.
STOP
#2
"Can you hear your
rod?" too much rod rotation too soon. "pst" not
"PSSSSSSSST"
REST is the
following the loop down, Back to START.
When teaching
hands-on I find myself saying "Click" as I guide the students' hand to a
rotational move followed by a stop.
This
seems to get the tip of the rod in action as a faster move at the end of the
stroke, Blending of the two will happen by it's self. Just getting a Stop is
often it. "Rotation follows Stroke". "Get it tight then make the
cast"
Shooting line: I
show my fingers as a guide and switch. Thumb and Index finger-pad trapping
the line as a Closed Switch, Sliding my thumb to the tip of the finger
Opens the switch, Never open the switch until after the stop. To
start; after Stop #2
Present the Back Cast. Not
just throwing the line behind you. Add a little PAZZAS" to the cast AIM it at
Something UP BEHIND YOU. Cloud or Tree tops.
Visual learners will do
better with an offside cast or sidearm as they can watch it unroll behind
them.
Some like a Waltz timing
1,2,3,4 1,2,3,4
My term for force/power is
"Zummies" an unknown amount that comes from teaching yourself the
"Extremes", too much vs. too little. Too fast vs. too slow. The learned
amount of zummies makes it work right. The wrong can be seen in the fly
line.
These Are TEACHING TERMS
That Draw pictures in the mind. Might not be engineering correct just a way to
help the student learn.
Ol
Al
* A FLY
FISHER'S LIFE The ?Art and Mechanics of Fly Fishing, by Charles Ritz, p.
42., ISBN: 1-56731-264-0
(As an aside, his
photo of a young Lefty with a tarpon caught on a 12 lb. tippet on p. 63 is worth
seeing.)
** FLYCASTING
FAULTS & FIXES with MEL KRIEGER, by Mel Krieger, ISBN:
0-944169-10-4
Gordy
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