Leaders / Glass / Triple haul / " PARALLEL LOOPS"

Walter & Group....

From Bruce Richards on Tom White's way of testing the design of your leader for efficient turnover :

I don't remember reading about Tom's method of testing leader design, but I like it. Makes sense though, if it will cast with the rod and fly used, it should work at the end of the fly line. And the better the caster the more leeway there will be.....

Bruce
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Al Crise comes in with a comment on glass rods and the Snye :

Howdy Gordy and Gang

 Thanks to Rick for the history on the Snye    As a young boy I fish Waypol Island in the St Clair River. As My Dad kept our boat just off Lake St Clair. We would take the Snye Cartie River into Canada. Caught my First Pike on the Wallasberg Snye.

 

 

    For those of you that still like Glass Rods there is a great site at http://fiberglassflyrodders.yuku.com/

Several of my local Fly Fishers use the old glass rods. Often taking a longer one and having it cut to a 5 to 6 ft The new little rods are call "Mouse Rods" Some sporting special Cork grips or fancy wood insert reelseats.

 

ol Al

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John Bilotta brings up the subject of the TRIPLE HAUL :

Gordy,

 I found an article by E. Neale Streeks, on wind casting and it has a section on using a triple haul “to help plop attractor flies down in breezes up to 50 mph.”

  Basically it advised that after making a forward double haul “as your line begins to unfurl in front of you, haul back once more with your line hand. Do this just moments after your second haul. Remember that just as you completed your second haul, you again positioned your line hand near the stripping guide in preparation for this.”

 I wondered if anyone is using/teaching this or if not, why?

 Thanks

John Bilotta

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John: 

  The answer to your question is YES.  This is often taught to advanced casters.

I look at this as a CHECK HAUL made just as your forward loop is almost finished unrolling.  It has several uses:

1.) For a leader turnover when casting into a strong wind.

2.) The check haul part of the "triple haul" can be made even if no double or single haul has preceeded it.

3.)  I use the check haul (usually after double hauling) when I am fishing with a sinking or intermediate line as I find a fish on a shallow flat.  The idea is that I want to have a lightning quick leader turnover in the air times so that my first retrieve strip is made just as the fly hits the water.  This is a way of using the sinking line successfully on a skinny flat without snagging the bottom.  If you change tackle to do this (to a floating line) the opportunity is gone.

4.)  I've had MCCI candidates use this to ensure a good leader turnover on the distance task on the exam.  Let me point out that some examiners are OK with this, and some are not.

5.) Jason Borger points out that the check haul can be used to improve a puddle mend.  I've found that it can also dramatize a Tuck cast. *

6.) Some use it to help make a right angle layout (hook cast) for what would otherwise be a curve cast.

7.) Jason also points out that it can be used for crashing a bass bug down.*

8.)  I use it, occasionally, to assist as I "flick off" a fly hooked weed on the water.

 

 

*Jason Borger's THE NATURE OF FLY CASTING, PP. 223-224.

Gordy

 

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Bob Tabbert offers a suggestion to Denise Maxwell:

Hi Denise, As you know you can search u tube and find many casting videos covering just about every cast known to man, some great, some not so great.  A sugestion, go to www.photobucket.com, set up a Loop "Photo Bucket" with you or some other Loop editor as the manager, you  then could review/screen and select the best casting videos from many sources and   make them available to all  casting students/CCIs/Masters. Bob 

Robert L. Tabbert
Conservation, Fly Fishing, Exploration
Winter: 211 Ursuline St, Lafayette, LA 70506 
Summer: N14925,W Turner Lk Rd
Lac du Flambeau, WI 54538
cell# 337 781 3650

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NEW TOPIC :

I'VE HAD SEVERAL REQUESTS TO DISCUSS THE CONCEPT OF "PARALLEL LOOPS" AS IT IS OFTEN TERMED IN DISCUSSIONS ON LOOP FORMATION.

Some questions which have come up:-

1.)  Is this really a misnomer ?

2.)  Does it really mean "loops with parallel legs" ?

3.)  When loops have legs which are not parallel, is this always a bad thing ?

4.)  Can good casters keep the legs of their loops strictly parallel when making 90' distance casts ?

5.)  If not, Why ?

6.)  Are There circumstances when the caster purposely makes loops with legs which are not parallel to solve a casting or fishing problem  ?

7.)  Are there circumstances when the caster really should cast with loops the legs of which are parallel in the casting plane ?

8. )  Can one cast with loops which have parallel legs in one plane and not in another ?

9.)  Can you make a tailing loop if the legs of your loop are not out of parallel ?

10.) If you said YES to question 6.), then list some ways to do this.

(Two additional questions which get deeper into the casting mechanics behind all this )

11.)  What do you think determines the path and plane of the fly leg (upper leg) of the loop ?

12.)  Then what determines the path and plane of the rod leg (lower leg) of your loop ?

 

Try to answer with SHORT ANSWERS.   Only follow with a LONG ANSWER if absolutely necessary !

 

Gordy