X-Message-Delivery: Vj0xLjE7RD0wO2w9MQ== X-Message-Info: JGTYoYF78jEHjJx36Oi8+Z3TmmkSEdPtYrlmWV6HfqB06n5FDDHMGAnhsFnl0s/Z6F8i1cibS3A= Received: from bay0-omc2-s4.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.140]) by bay0-hmmc2-f4.Bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:37:58 -0700 Received: from BAY119-DS8 ([207.46.9.25]) by bay0-omc2-s4.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 12 Aug 2009 08:37:59 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [71.196.34.42] X-Originating-Email: [hillshead@msn.com] Message-ID: Return-Path: hillshead@msn.com From: "Gordon Hill" To: Subject: Fw: Spey lines Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:37:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA1B41.51F279B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.60.0053.2200 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 11:37:49 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2009 15:37:59.0456 (UTC) FILETIME=[DEF0FA00:01CA1B62] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA1B41.51F279B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Spey lines =20 1 - Generally speaking what types of lines are not suitable for Spey = casting? =20 2 - Generally speaking what types of lines are commonly used for Spey = casting? =20 3 - Why are those listed in (1) unsuitable and why are those listed in = (2) suitable? =20 4 - Recommend the head (front taper + main mass (belly) + back taper) = length to rod length for a promising student. =20 5 - How much floating line (multiple of rod length) can be comfortably = aerialised into a 'D' loop with a long belly Spey line, single Spey cast = and 45 degree angle change? =20 6 - As (5) for a Double Spey cast with a 90 deg angle change? =20 7 - How do the answers given in (5) and (6) vary for the following = conditions: =20 a) - Standing on a casting platform? =20 b) - Wading ankle deep? =20 c) - Wading up to waist level? =20 8 - What can be done to increase the length of line aerialised in a = 'D' loop for a Single Spey cast and what is likely to deteriorate during = the casting sequence as this length is increased? =20 9 - What determines the maximum mass of a custom fast sinking tip = attached to a Spey line? =20 10 - When Spey casting with a fast sinking tip how can you reasonably = sure that the line/fly will cast cleanly? =20 11 - How does the leader/fly assemblage influence Spey cast and for = Underhand casting?=20 =20 12 - Who popularised the modern Underhand cast? What are the = advantages and disadvantages of Underhand casting compared to Spey = casting? =20 13 - The rear portion of the head of many WF Spey lines is = comparatively heavy, why? =20 14 - What disadvantage (from a fishing perspective) is encountered due = to the heavy rear portion with certain types of line? =20 15 -What type of line was preferred by Scotsman Alexander Grant who = often cast over 160ft without shooting any line over 100 years ago? What = type of cast did he use? What type of rod and where did it get its name = from? Which of the modern lines most closely compare with Grant's line? =20 16 - What do you expect to see if uncontrolled running line is used = with a shooting head and: =20 a) - The running line is too light/lacks friction? =20 b) - The running line is too heavy/excessive friction? =20 c) - Imagine that you are wading waist deep in a fast = flow. Describe how the drag effect of loose running line can be reduced = whilst casting?=20 =20 d) - How can turnover be improved? =20 17 - Howling upstream wind, standing on a long steep bank four feet = above the water (the bank rises to 100 ft). Fishing with a type 3 = sinking line into deep water. What cast would you suggest? =20 18 - Wind is downstream and you are positioned back against a wall = built right at the water's edge with no possibility of wading? Choose an = outfit and casting method to make best use of the situation?=20 =20 19 - For what purposes was "Skagit" casting styles developed? What = techniques are common to all Skagit casts?=20 =20 20 - What are the advantages and disadvantages of using a double = tapered line for Spey casting? =20 =20 Best wishes, Ally Gowans =20 See my web sites = http://www.letsflyfish.com and = http://www.flyfish-scotland.com=20 2010 Spey Casting and Salmon Fishing = Schools at The Kenmore = Hotel March 19/21, April 16/18 and June 11/13. Trout fly fishing and fly = casting school "Tackling = Trout" at The = Kenmore Hotel May 21/22/23, 2010. See my web sites for more details of = schools. This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain = sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. No = confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. = If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately delete it and = all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and = notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, = distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the = intended recipient. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Gordon Hill [mailto:hillshead@msn.com]=20 Sent: 10 August 2009 18:33 To: ally@letsflyfish.com Subject: Re: Spey lines =20 Ally... =20 That would be a good way to do it. =20 Thanks ! =20 Gordy ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Alastair Gowans=20 To: 'Gordon Hill'=20 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:29 AM Subject: RE: Spey lines =20 Hi Gordy, =20 Do mean a Q&A? =20 Best wishes, Ally Gowans =20 See my web sites = http://www.letsflyfish.com and = http://www.flyfish-scotland.com=20 2010 Spey Casting and Salmon Fishing = Schools at The Kenmore = Hotel March 19/21, April 16/18 and June 11/13. Trout fly fishing and fly = casting school "Tackling = Trout" at The = Kenmore Hotel May 21/22/23, 2010. See my web sites for more details of = schools. This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain = sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. No = confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. = If you are not the intended recipient, please immediately delete it and = all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and = notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, = distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the = intended recipient. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: Gordon Hill [mailto:hillshead@msn.com]=20 Sent: 09 August 2009 18:57 To: Ally Gowans; ally Gowans Subject: Spey lines =20 Ally... =20 Would you do a piece for our Group on the various Spey lines = available ? =20 I'm really not qualified to do it ..... seems as though this is a = confusing subject for many including Spey casters. =20 I've even seen some confusion on the part of THCI examiners ! =20 Best, =20 Gordy ------=_NextPart_000_00BE_01CA1B41.51F279B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
 

Spey=20 lines

 

1 - = Generally=20 speaking what types of lines are not suitable for Spey=20 casting?

 

2 - = Generally=20 speaking what types of lines are commonly used for Spey=20 casting?

 

3 - Why = are those=20 listed in (1) unsuitable and why are those listed in (2)=20 suitable?

 

4 - = Recommend the=20 head (front taper + main mass (belly) + back taper) length to rod = length for a=20 promising student.

 

5 - How = much=20 floating line (multiple of rod length) can be comfortably aerialised = into a=20 'D' loop with a long belly Spey line, single Spey cast and 45 degree = angle=20 change?

 

6 - As (5) = for a=20 Double Spey cast with a 90 deg angle = change?

 

7 - How do = the=20 answers given in (5) and (6) vary for the following=20 conditions:

 

            = a) - Standing on a casting platform?

 

            = b) - Wading ankle deep?

 

            = c) - Wading up to waist level?

 

8 - What = can be done=20 to increase the length of line aerialised in a 'D' loop for a Single = Spey cast=20 and what is likely to deteriorate during the casting sequence as this = length=20 is increased?

 

9 - What = determines=20 the maximum mass of a custom fast sinking tip attached to a Spey=20 line?

 

10 - When = Spey=20 casting with a fast sinking tip how can you reasonably sure that the = line/fly=20 will cast cleanly?

 

11 - How = does the=20 leader/fly assemblage influence Spey cast and for Underhand casting?=20

 

12 - Who = popularised=20 the modern Underhand cast? What are the advantages and disadvantages = of=20 Underhand casting compared to Spey = casting?

 

13 - The = rear=20 portion of the head of many WF Spey lines is comparatively heavy,=20 why?

 

14 - What=20 disadvantage (from a fishing perspective) is encountered due to the = heavy rear=20 portion with certain types of line?

 

15 -What = type of=20 line was preferred by Scotsman Alexander Grant who often cast over = 160ft=20 without shooting any line over 100 years ago? What type of cast did he = use?=20 What type of rod and where did it get its name from? Which of the = modern lines=20 most closely compare with Grant's = line?

 

16 - What = do you=20 expect to see if uncontrolled running line is used with a shooting = head=20 and:

 

            = a) - The running line is too light/lacks=20 friction?

 

            = b) - The running line is too heavy/excessive=20 friction?

 

            = c) - Imagine that you are wading waist deep in a fast flow. Describe = how the=20 drag effect of loose running line can be reduced whilst casting?=20

 

            = d) - How can turnover be improved?

 

17 - = Howling=20 upstream wind, standing on a long steep bank four feet above the water = (the=20 bank rises to 100 ft). Fishing with a type 3 sinking line into deep = water.=20 What cast would you suggest?

 

18 - Wind = is=20 downstream and you are positioned back against a wall built right at = the=20 water's edge with no possibility of wading? Choose an outfit and = casting=20 method to make best use of the situation? =

 

19 - For = what=20 purposes was "Skagit" casting = styles=20 developed? What techniques are common to all Skagit casts?

 

20 - What = are the=20 advantages and disadvantages of using a double tapered line for Spey=20 casting?

 

 

Best=20 wishes,

Ally=20 Gowans

 

See my web = sites http://www.letsflyfish.com = and http://www.flyfish-scotland.com= =20

2010 Spey Casting = and Salmon=20 Fishing Schools at The Kenmore Hotel March 19/21, April 16/18 = and=20 June 11/13. Trout fly fishing and fly casting school "Tackling = Trout"=20 at The Kenmore Hotel May 21/22/23, 2010. See my web sites for more = details of=20 schools.

This = message is for=20 the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private = proprietary=20 or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is = waived=20 or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not the intended recipient, = please=20 immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy = any hard=20 copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or = indirectly, use,=20 disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of = this=20 message if you are not the intended recipient.

 

From: Gordon=20 Hill [mailto:hillshead@msn.com]
Sent: 10 August 2009 = 18:33
To: = ally@letsflyfish.com
Subject: Re: Spey=20 lines

 

Ally...

 

That = would be a=20 good way to do it.

 

Thanks=20 !

 

Gordy

----- = Original=20 Message -----

From: Alastair Gowans=20

To: 'Gordon=20 Hill'

Sent: Monday, = August=20 10, 2009 6:29 AM

Subject: RE: = Spey=20 lines

 

Hi=20 Gordy,

 

Do mean a = Q&A?

 

Best=20 wishes,

Ally=20 Gowans

 

See my = web sites http://www.letsflyfish.com = and http://www.flyfish-scotland.com<= /A>=20

2010 Spey Casting = and=20 Salmon Fishing Schools at The Kenmore Hotel March 19/21, = April=20 16/18 and June 11/13. Trout fly fishing and fly casting school "Tackling=20 Trout" at The Kenmore Hotel May 21/22/23, 2010. See my web sites = for=20 more details of schools.

This = message is=20 for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and = private=20 proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or = privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you are not = the=20 intended recipient, please immediately delete it and all copies of = it from=20 your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. = You must=20 not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or = copy any=20 part of = this=20 message if you are not the intended recipient.

 

From:=20 Gordon Hill [mailto:hillshead@msn.com]
Sent: 09 August 2009 = 18:57
To: Ally Gowans; ally=20 Gowans
Subject: = Spey=20 lines

 

Ally...

 

Would = you do a=20 piece for our Group on the various Spey lines available=20 ?

 

I'm = really not=20 qualified to do it ..... seems as though this is a confusing subject = for=20 many including Spey casters.

 

I've = even seen=20 some confusion on the part of THCI examiners=20 !

 

Best,

 

Gordy

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